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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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NEW motor is shot !!!!!!!

I was getting the truck tuned so i could sell it, When i was driving it with the tuner the truck just died on the road so i pulled over to see what is was and all i heard was broken rod noise, Remember i just got the motor built back in march good thing the motor has a warrenty
 
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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I don't think Ford will cover it if it was "tuned"... All I gotta say is, good luck brother.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BHf150
I was getting the truck tuned so i could sell it, When i was driving it with the tuner the truck just died on the road so i pulled over to see what is was and all i heard was broken rod noise, Remember i just got the motor built back in march good thing the motor has a warrenty
So it must be Ford's faul that your truck died with a tuner.

Sorry, it sucks that it happened, but sometimes you have to pay if you want to play.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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So it must be Ford's faul that your truck died with a tuner.

Sorry, it sucks that it happened, but sometimes you have to pay if you want to play.

I suspect the supercharger would be a little more of a concern to Ford than a tune...

If you knew what you were talking about before you typed you would know he had a custom endgine built to go in there and thats what he is talking about is under warrenty.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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The motor is custom built, the warranty is from the engine builder not ford
 
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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Besides, according to the massey ferguson law, its Fords responsibility to prove that the application of an after market modification created and led to the failure. Which in this case doesn't seem likely. A failure in a rod on a new engine sounds more like a metallurgic defect or an inadequate lubrication either from the pump or blocked journals. Another possibility could be a hydro locked engine due to an injector malfunctioning which would also fall under Fords responsibility. Neither of which are an issue here because this is a professionally built motor and Ford is not involved.

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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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The motor is custom built, the warranty is from the engine builder not ford
Who was the tuner ? I am sure it will all work out for you
 
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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How custom built was this? to me it sounds like you are going to a bunch of people who have no idea WTF they are doing...
 
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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could he not just take the tuner out and say he has no clue wtf happened?
 
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Oxlander
Besides, according to the massey ferguson law, its Fords responsibility to prove that the application of an after market modification created and led to the failure. Which in this case doesn't seem likely. A failure in a rod on a new engine sounds more like a metallurgic defect or an inadequate lubrication either from the pump or blocked journals. Another possibility could be a hydro locked engine due to an injector malfunctioning which would also fall under Fords responsibility. Neither of which are an issue here because this is a professionally built motor and Ford is not involved.Ox
First, thankfully he stated the engine builder warranted the motor…

Secondly, you can forget about this fantasy law many people refer to that supposedly holds a manufacture liable for warranty repairs due to stupidity of owners modifying their engines. The law is not for the stupid people. What the law is for is so a manufacture can NOT mandate you use ONLY there products, such as oil, filters etc UNLESS the manufacture PAYS for those items.

Now, adding a supercharger or tuning to your vehicle is NOT covered by any laws to protect stupid consumers from being, well, stupid to begin with. Once you modify your motor you are on your own PERIOD!

Rods break for many reasons and adding more horsepower with or without a tune can cause a rod to fail due to the extra stress they see. An improper tune that could cause detonation will break a rod no matter how well the lucubration system is working.

Bottom line is if someone wants to use the stupidity law of trying to hold a manufacture responsible for their own stupidity had better be prepared to lawyer up and lawyer up big time with the big boys who change $500 an hour an up. In other words if you don’t have a chit load of cash YOU LOSE!!!!

And thank God for that or we would all being paying for a few others stupidity…
 
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
First, thankfully he stated the engine builder warranted the motor…

Secondly, you can forget about this fantasy law many people refer to that supposedly holds a manufacture liable for warranty repairs due to stupidity of owners modifying their engines. The law is not for the stupid people. What the law is for is so a manufacture can NOT mandate you use ONLY there products, such as oil, filters etc UNLESS the manufacture PAYS for those items.

Now, adding a supercharger or tuning to your vehicle is NOT covered by any laws to protect stupid consumers from being, well, stupid to begin with. Once you modify your motor you are on your own PERIOD!

Rods break for many reasons and adding more horsepower with or without a tune can cause a rod to fail due to the extra stress they see. An improper tune that could cause detonation will break a rod no matter how well the lucubration system is working.

Bottom line is if someone wants to use the stupidity law of trying to hold a manufacture responsible for their own stupidity had better be prepared to lawyer up and lawyer up big time with the big boys who change $500 an hour an up. In other words if you don’t have a chit load of cash YOU LOSE!!!!

And thank God for that or we would all being paying for a few others stupidity…
That pretty much hits the nail right on the head, doesn't it.

EDIT: I suppose a Roush charger installed by the dealer woud keep yuor warranty intact, or any other mod the dealer performs.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act , never heard of massey Furgison
 
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Good luck Brian, you sure are going through a lot of crap to get what you want. Get some pics up of everything so we have an idea.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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I just love how threads get turned around like this. Especially older members.....they should know better.


I especially love how people are now categorized as "stupid" because they install a tuner. I guess those with superchargers are "retarded" and those with built motors have no brain, correct?
My reply was in regards to the person I quoted in my reply and not the original poster. For the record no I do not find people stupid who modify their vehicles correctly and take responsibility. I do find people extremely stupid who modify their vehicles and do so incorrectly, or correctly and then expect the dealer or the manufacture to reimburse them for their stupidity of not having the knowledge that it is THEY who are responsible if something goes BOOM and NOT the dealer of manufacture…

Or simply put, for their stupidity that there is a law that is NOT intended to protect them from accepting PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their actions regardless if they did it correctly or not. At the end of the day I refuse to pay for someone else’s mistake by increase the sale price of a vehicle I may be purchasing. I have owned vehicles in the past and have modified some. I did so accepting full responsibility and KNOWING there is no law in any state or any federal law that protects me from my actions in which I could go and have the dealer correct my stupidity…

If your gonna play you gotta pay…
 
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
My reply was in regards to the person I quoted in my reply and not the original poster. For the record no I do not find people stupid who modify their vehicles correctly and take responsibility. I do find people extremely stupid who modify their vehicles and do so incorrectly, or correctly and then expect the dealer or the manufacture to reimburse them for their stupidity of not having the knowledge that it is THEY who are responsible if something goes BOOM and NOT the dealer of manufacture…

Or simply put, for their stupidity that there is a law that is NOT intended to protect them from accepting PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their actions regardless if they did it correctly or not. At the end of the day I refuse to pay for someone else’s mistake by increase the sale price of a vehicle I may be purchasing. I have owned vehicles in the past and have modified some. I did so accepting full responsibility and KNOWING there is no law in any state or any federal law that protects me from my actions in which I could go and have the dealer correct my stupidity…

If your gonna play you gotta pay…
I totally understand. I just thought you were saying "you're stuipid if you install a tuner". I understand where you were going with that post now....thanks for clarifying.
 
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