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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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Nitrous or SuperCharger?

Looking for more power and another way to spend money i dont really have. I would like input on pros, cons and $$$ of either dropping in a SC or a bottle.

Please only post what you know first hand not what you heard from your cousin's baby-sister's boyfriend who runs low 8s on street tires in 4 wheel drive in 95 degree weather...
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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ive had both setups independently. A complete supercharger kit will cost $5000+. A complete nitrous kit can run you around $1000 with your extra bottle, bottle warmer, purge kit & pressure guage.

Nitrous:

Pros:

-Biggest bang for the buck in power adders
-Easy install
-Only puts extra strain on the power/drivetrain when used and not full time like a supercharger
-Easy to remove if you decide to get rid of it
-the nitrous "kick in the pants" is very fun
-NOS IS BADASS DUDE!

Cons:

-Nitrous refills are a PITA and COSTLY if you have a lead foot.
-Power is not always available, i.e. bottle is empty or cold and pressure is too low(sucks when that Hemi pulls up next to you and starts reving his motor...)
-Premium fuel required


Supercharger:

Pros:

-Power is always available.
-NOS may be badass but superchargers are just plain awesome. Theres nothing like watching peoples faces as you give them a nice dose of the "whine" as you pass buy

Cons:

-Higher initial cost
-More involved installation
-Not easily removed and returned to stock
-Potential power/drivetrain troubles(if you have a lead foot like me )
-Premium fuel required


Having said all that there are a few things to consider. If you are doing this beacuse you want your daily driver to have more power, then i strongly reccommend the supercharger. if you are doing it with the intention of only getting on it every once in a while, then you may consider the NO2. Of course money is a factor. Also, if you dont plan on keeping the truck very long, then the NO2 may be a better choice because i believe the resale on a "stock" vehicle would be more than one with an aftermarket permanent power adder.

Power is VERY addicting, if you get the nitrous, you may find yourself wanting that extra power all the time. and if you get a supercharger, you may soon be finding THAT to be "not enough". just a warning of where you could find yourself...

hope this helps...
 

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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 12:39 AM
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superhcrager with no2!!! haha

i say you go with no2, for all the reasons smok][n said.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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SMOKIN put it very well, but another CON to Nitrous (that I think would be important to your setup) is that it can only be used in WOT situations. Where as a SC will add power through out the usable RPM and throttle range.

Basicaly what I am saying is NOS will only be usable for you in a straight line (probably on road) situation to accelerate....where as the SC will add power that you can use while off roading or towing. I know a lot of mud racing and hill climbers use NO2 but its just not practical to use on a fairly stock set up that way...like I said it can only be used at WOT.

With that said, I have had N02 on a several cars and my 97 Ram SS/T and its very effective and if straight line acceleration is what your after it can't be beat.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RamSS/T
Basicaly what I am saying is NOS will only be usable for you in a straight line (probably on road) situation to accelerate....where as the SC will add power that you can use while off roading or towing. I know a lot of mud racing and hill climbers use NO2 but its just not practical to use on a fairly stock set up that way...like I said it can only be used at WOT.
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Another good point
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 01:21 AM
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Screw you guys!!!!!
















Now i want NO2!
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Don't Do N2O ;-)

I believe I can add a thing or two here also, not so much from having used them on a 6000lb factory truck, but definitely on a 2800lb streetable race car.....

********* First and foremost *******

I would NOT recommend N2O. Period. Why you ask? N2O is much too volatile on a factory engine. But you say all the stock Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds....use it all the time. You would be correct. Why is it bad for a truck?

Listen up noobs.....

Adding a 50 or 75 shot to a 3200lb car is pretty noticeable. Adding a 50-75 shot on a 6000lb truck, uhm, not so much. It may be perceptible, but all it will do is leave you clamoring for more! So you start adding larger pills to get more N2O into the motor. This requires more fuel. But forget all that for a second and focus those globs on this for a minute :

* N2O puts a considerable amount of stress on your main bearings (especially the thrust bearing = #3) since it is an "all or nothing" power adder. This amounts to considerably reduced engine life.

*N2O goes through sparkplugs very FAST. This amounts to $$$$, PLUS, if you don't keep a vigilant eye on those plugs each time you use the N2O, you could cause serious damage the next time you spray and the plugs are not up to the task. Given the history of plug issues with these motors, I don't see very many of these barstool mechanics pulling the plugs each night after using the spray.

*N2O eats away at cast/hypereutectic pistons especially if everything isn't perfect! The SLIGHTEST hint of detonation will spell disaster for anything other than a forged slug.

Do yourself a huge favor and save the cash for a well engineered SC'er + tune! Ponder this.....if N2O had the slightest hint of "safe" reliable HP, they probably would have made it a factory option on some sort of vehicle by now. There sure are a lot of warranteed SC'ed and Turbo'ed cars out there though.....
 

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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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S/C is the way to go. And I think the Saleen Focus came off the show room floor with nitrous. lol I know mustang racers that stated that after 3 years of racing they have spent more money on nitrious refills then what a s/c would have cost. On my last stang I spent about 2k on refills in 2.5 years.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 05supercrew
...the Saleen Focus came off the show room floor with nitrous.

Yes they did,
but I hardly call a limited production Saleen Focus a "factory" car. There is no such thing as a mass produced factory vehicle which comes equipped with N2O and a full factory warrantee. That Saleen Focus is more a marketing strategy than anything else. Geared directly at the 20 something ricer gurls...LOL

Plenty of SC'ed and Turbo'ed cars/trucks though! As you stated, one would end up forking over a lot of $$$ to keep that bottle filled....
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by rms8
Yes they did,
but I hardly call a limited production Saleen Focus a "factory" car. There is no such thing as a mass produced factory vehicle which comes equipped with N2O and a full factory warrantee. That Saleen Focus is more a marketing strategy than anything else. Geared directly at the 20 something ricer gurls...LOL

Plenty of SC'ed and Turbo'ed cars/trucks though! As you stated, one would end up forking over a lot of $$$ to keep that bottle filled....
I had 2 bottles, one for back up. I agree about the Saleen Focus as a ricer gimick.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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Supercharger!!
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
Supercharger!!

Right again young Padawan....LOL
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Right again young Padawan....LOL
LOL

Oh and don't forget transmission mods and a driveshaft loop wouldn't be a bad idea.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Sooner or later, nitrous will get you, and when it does, it HURTS. There is no way to experience what it does without eventually wanting more. It's too easy, too simple. It's adictive. You keep adding more and more and more and then... BOOM! Go with the supercharger.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Nitrous is for Rice Burners
 
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