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Old May 1, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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The new Super Duty is incredible, and it comes with a Super Duty price tag. I built a 2008 F250 FX4 with a diesel for about $48,000. and $42,000. with a V10. I paid about $26,500 for the F-150. I hope they have some sales on the Super Duty. I'd love to have a F-250 as my next truck barring something fantastic happening with the '09 F-150.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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Yea I wonder about price too. The supercab with a 8' bed is HUGE. I saw one when I bought my Fx4 and now I wish I would of bought it. Was cheaper but I don't remember what the msrp was.
Talking about those really long wheelbase trucks...

I saw a 2002 F150 the other day that had the Supercab and the Longbed... and it looked like a stretch limo... it was freakin awesome!!

Feel sorry for anyone that had to manuever that in a small parking lot.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Feel sorry for anyone that had to manuever that in a small parking lot
That was the reason I didn't buy it. Also you couldn't see over the huge F150 bed on this thing. The height of the bed! I wasn't used to that yet expecially on an 8' bed!
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rambo
The new Super Duty is incredible, and it comes with a Super Duty price tag. I built a 2008 F250 FX4 with a diesel for about $48,000. and $42,000. with a V10. I paid about $26,500 for the F-150. I hope they have some sales on the Super Duty. I'd love to have a F-250 as my next truck barring something fantastic happening with the '09 F-150.
They are actually pretty reasonable when you price them out in XL trim. Especially at the end of the year. This September they had a ton of 2006 XL single cab and super cabs in v8 or v10 for right at 20 grand.

Once you start adding crap like the FX4 package and diesel, the price shoots up quickly
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Some friends and I were discussing truck power and capabilities. I still find it easy to believe that the F150 is now what a F250 was 10 some odd years ago... and the F250 is what a F350 was 10 some odd years ago. If you get my gist.

I mean really... it is insane how much weight the new F150 can carry.
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Some friends and I were discussing truck power and capabilities. I still find it easy to believe that the F150 is now what a F250 was 10 some odd years ago... and the F250 is what a F350 was 10 some odd years ago. If you get my gist.

I mean really... it is insane how much weight the new F150 can carry.
you and your friends are quite wrong... having owned a small fleet of 250's and 350's over the years I can say that the only thing really better about the trucks nowadays is they are much more comfortable to travel in, especially the super duty's.

They are however and order of magnitude:
1. more expensive
2. more difficult to work on
3. more expensive to fix when they break

Give me a mid 80's (pre-87) F350 dually with a 460 v8 and a C6 transmission, and it will pull and run until the metal give out

You cant say that about any vehicle today. I have owned at least one of every generation of F150 and 250/350 made since the 1974+ series, every engine and tranny combo possible except the new 6.0 and 6.4 diesels, so I think I know wtf I am talking about

The 70's and 80's F150s were just as, if not MORE capable than today's version. Except in Safety (airbags, antilock brakes, crumple zones, etc) and gas mileage. And gas mileage is debatable. The combination of the 302/5.0l fuel injected engine and AOD/AODE tranny was just as if not more fuel economical than todays engines.

The weak point of the F150 has always been the brakes, rear axle and transmission. I say transmission, because back when you could get a C4 or C6 tranny, the tranny was never an issue. But when they started adding overdrive things went south. Mainly rear axle for capacity and brakes for safety. Even today, you can load up an F150 MUCH more than its brakes can safely handle. And I am not sure today's axle is any better what was used in the 80's and prior
 
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Old May 2, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by crazynip
you and your friends are quite wrong... having owned a small fleet of 250's and 350's over the years I can say that the only thing really better about the trucks nowadays is they are much more comfortable to travel in, especially the super duty's.

They are however and order of magnitude:
1. more expensive
2. more difficult to work on
3. more expensive to fix when they break

Give me a mid 80's (pre-87) F350 dually with a 460 v8 and a C6 transmission, and it will pull and run until the metal give out

You cant say that about any vehicle today. I have owned at least one of every generation of F150 and 250/350 made since the 1974+ series, every engine and tranny combo possible except the new 6.0 and 6.4 diesels, so I think I know wtf I am talking about

The 70's and 80's F150s were just as, if not MORE capable than today's version. Except in Safety (airbags, antilock brakes, crumple zones, etc) and gas mileage. And gas mileage is debatable. The combination of the 302/5.0l fuel injected engine and AOD/AODE tranny was just as if not more fuel economical than todays engines.

The weak point of the F150 has always been the brakes, rear axle and transmission. I say transmission, because back when you could get a C4 or C6 tranny, the tranny was never an issue. But when they started adding overdrive things went south. Mainly rear axle for capacity and brakes for safety. Even today, you can load up an F150 MUCH more than its brakes can safely handle. And I am not sure today's axle is any better what was used in the 80's and prior
I completely disagree about the rear axle Dodge and Chevy couldn't touch Fords Rear axle with the 9.75. Your last paragraph is completely innacurate.
 

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