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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Calling all Supercharged F150's!!!

hey well i need a lil info, mainly about what issues have people had with there blower mainly, Whipple, Magnacharger (PW, Trilogy), Roush.. etc... and what kind of thing that can go wrong?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by weazel
hey well i need a lil info, mainly about what issues have people had with there blower mainly, Whipple, Magnacharger (PW, Trilogy), Roush.. etc... and what kind of thing that can go wrong?
All the blowers that you mention are top notch blowers. The biggest thing to worry about is running to much boost or a bad tune and blowing the stock block.

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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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All the blowers that you mention are top notch blowers. The biggest thing to worry about is running to much boost or a bad tune and blowing the stock block.

Phil

Out of all of the ones listed which one you think would be best to go with if im looking for a kit to put on and not to mess with? I am liking the whipple?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:33 AM
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the parts from the major s/c brands are all quality. i think the biggest worry is how they will affect your stock motor and transmission. alot of this has to do with the tune that each of the manufacturers provide.

i am currently having some shifting issues after my roush install. i know not everyone has these issues but i dont think i am the only one. on the bright side, mike troyer thinks that his tune will help this problem. i think i have heard from other people with different superchargers that they have had transmission issues since the reflash.

from what i have heard the roush tune as far as the motor is concerned is very good and very safe. there may be some less popular superchargers that do not offer as high of quality of engine tuning, im not sure.

hopefully some other people will chime in with some input
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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ive got the roush and a mike troyer tune for about two years now with zero problems. still luv it as much as when i first got.

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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by weazel
Out of all of the ones listed which one you think would be best to go with if im looking for a kit to put on and not to mess with? I am liking the whipple?
Whipple is one of the best but for less money the PW kit that Drew has looks and performs very nice.
With most of the kits your better off with a good custom tune.They usually make more power.
A lot of guys run a Troyer custom tune.He dose great work!!!!

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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by phil6608
Whipple is one of the best but for less money the PW kit that Drew has looks and performs very nice.
With most of the kits your better off with a good custom tune.They usually make more power.
A lot of guys run a Troyer custom tune.He dose great work!!!!

Phil
Do you think the kit Whipple makes is good to leave as a "stock" kit? and Will i still get the longevity out of the motor and trans with it?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 03:00 AM
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Do you think the kit Whipple makes is good to leave as a "stock" kit? and Will i still get the longevity out of the motor and trans with it?
Without any upgrades to the tranny,it would be the first to go.They just don't hold up to the extra power the blower puts out.
Most guys complain about have the rev limiter set so low with a stock tune.
For myself,I could not live with all that power and have it limited with a low rev limit.
My trucks limit is set at 6400 RPMs

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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by phil6608
Without any upgrades to the tranny,it would be the first to go.They just don't hold up to the extra power the blower puts out.
Most guys complain about have the rev limiter set so low with a stock tune.
For myself,I could not live with all that power and have it limited with a low rev limit.
My trucks limit is set at 6400 RPMs

Phil
What about the motor holdin up, and what upgrades would be needed to the tranny?

when you say rev limiter are you talkin where it shifts at or the speed limiter?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by weazel
What about the motor holdin up, and what upgrades would be needed to the tranny?

when you say rev limiter are you talkin where it shifts at or the speed limiter?
Neither, the revolutions limits. ie, it limits how high it will go in RPMS...which I guess could mean when it shifts, but not in your final gear. I think the tunes that come with the superchargers keep them in the 5000 range, and with custom tunes it bumps into 6000 range.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 05:00 AM
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Neither, the revolutions limits. ie, it limits how high it will go in RPMS...which I guess could mean when it shifts, but not in your final gear. I think the tunes that come with the superchargers keep them in the 5000 range, and with custom tunes it bumps into 6000 range.
see all i would need/want is a 5000-5200 shift
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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Thr Roush kit is probably the better engineered kit. Look at Rafa26's whipple setup, he is using the Roush FEAD assembly instead of whipples. The Roush will either cover the remainder of the 3/36 warranty or a 1 yr warranty if you are already past 36K. The only thing that I did not like with the Roush tune is it did not touch the tranny shifting at all. Problem was solved when I had Mike tune it. Mike likes to keep the truck shifting around 4800 at WOT to save the transmission.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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What about the motor holdin up, and what upgrades would be needed to the tranny?

when you say rev limiter are you talkin where it shifts at or the speed limiter?
This helps with shifting. The quicker and harder it shifts it is better for the trans.The slipping with sloppy shifts is hard on the clutches of the trans.
http://www.factorytechtransmissions....PROD&ProdID=20
This will keep it from blowing or wearing out.This is a 4R100 kit.You would have to ask them about a kit for the 4R70W but this gives you an idea.
http://www.factorytechtransmissions....PROD&ProdID=14
The motor should hold up if you keep it at 8 to 10 PSI
The limiter cuts the motor down when it hits a certain RPM to help keep it from blowing. has nothing to do with when it shifts.

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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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This helps with shifting. The quicker and harder it shifts it is better for the trans.The slipping with sloppy shifts is hard on the clutches of the trans.
http://www.factorytechtransmissions....PROD&ProdID=20
This will keep it from blowing or wearing out.This is a 4R100 kit.You would have to ask them about a kit for the 4R70W but this gives you an idea.
http://www.factorytechtransmissions....PROD&ProdID=14
The motor should hold up if you keep it at 8 to 10 PSI
The limiter cuts the motor down when it hits a certain RPM to help keep it from blowing. has nothing to do with when it shifts.

Phil

i know you can tune it and make the tranny shift harder and quicker does that help?

you say 8-10psi to be safe what about the Hp/TQ it makes on the fly and rear wheels?... psi isnt always a way to measure power...


Is this what i would need?
http://www.factorytechtransmissions....WPROD&ProdID=6
 

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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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i know you can tune it and make the tranny shift harder and quicker does that help?

you say 8-10psi to be safe what about the Hp/TQ it makes on the fly and rear wheels?... psi isnt always a way to measure power...


Is this what i would need?
http://www.factorytechtransmissions....WPROD&ProdID=6
That link is for a 92 to 95 valve body.I thought you had an 06 truck???
The link I sent is for the 01 and up 4R70W!
Yes you can tune it to shift harder but they say it's better to do it with the plat kit. I have my line presser way up to make it shift harder but my tranny is built to handle 1000 HP!

For the motor,,,you can probably go 400 to 450 RWHP and it will hold together with a good safe tune!!!! But you never know for sure.
I blew the head gasket on my stock block with 10 PSI. So anything can happen.

Phil
 
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