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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Dribone
11 hp on the 4.6 and 22hp on the 5.4 for the preloaded tune. livewire sounds pretty weak to start off with. i do like the display, but are you still able to monitor the same 19 parameters of the truck as you are with the edge?

buy 19 different autometer guages and tell me if the price is comparable to the edge.
Hi.

Any canned tune is going to be 'weak', compared to properly executed true custom tuning. It always has, and will always be, that way. Custom is also safer, if done properly.

This has already been done & documented to death. As I said - peruse the Chips forum for that info.

I'd take a conservative number over an inflated one any day.

And, I can use all of my tunes - no shudder, perfect throttle response, incredible midrange - and totally safe A/F's - imagine that

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
Hi.

Any canned tune is going to be 'weak', compared to properly executed true custom tuning. It always has, and will always be, that way. Custom is also safer, if done properly.

This has already been done & documented to death. As I said - peruse the Chips forum for that info.

I'd take a conservative number over an inflated one any day.

And, I can use all of my tunes - no shudder, perfect throttle response, incredible midrange - and totally safe A/F's - imagine that

Cheers
Bubba
I only ask because i'm curious, not trying to be a smartass here, how long does it take you to switch tunes, and is it easily accessible to do?

i don't doubt that about the custom tuning for one minute, but i think those are better for the people who (and i'm not singling you out) set it and forget it. guys with the edge (from what it seems) like to play around, swap setting to their liking. on top of this, I couldn't imagine Edge with all their R&D putting a product on the market that's going to foul the motor.

Personally, I like the edge because on saturdays i can tow a 5000 pound trailer and on sundays i can race around town with totally different results.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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Thumbs up

I'm going to buy mine from Troyer. I like being able to converse with someone who can relate to my vehicle & driving conditions. PLUS the friendly AND rapid response. That's worth a few bucks to me.

Just my $.02
 

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dribone
where does the shudder come from? I've been running it for almost a year now and haven't noticed one
It's a Edge level 3 transmission shudder at highway cruising speeds that some owners are experiencing. Lots of threads covering the topic.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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interesting... i also haven't updated from the internet yet though
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dribone
interesting... i also haven't updated from the internet yet though
I'm going to download again today after work. If it's working for you I wouldn't bother.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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i heard the latest update is free from bugs, and the level 3 is more responsive/more power. the only issue i have is once I plug the edge into the USB, it doesn't light up or anything. should it?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dribone
i heard the latest update is free from bugs, and the level 3 is more responsive/more power. the only issue i have is once I plug the edge into the USB, it doesn't light up or anything. should it?
You need to go to the Edge website and download the lightning software first. (If you haven't)
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ridge
couldnt find one for a 4.6
There is only one...it works with both the 5.4 and the 4.6.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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i had the lightning software downloaded already... i'll have to call them
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dribone
i had the lightning software downloaded already... i'll have to call them

Mine has never lit up, until I upgraded my edge software. I will say this I am having trouble with my edge turning on with the truck. I am having to unplug and replug it back in then it works fine for a few weeks. I guess I should call them but my 1 year warrant has been gone a long time?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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I just updated to calibration version 23 (still unstable) and the edge didn't light up until the end of the loading cycle. Normal. I've heard version 23 helped solve level 3 shudder on some vehicles, hopoefully mine's one of them.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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Troyer Xcal 2 ...plug-n-play....no problems......no shudders.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Troyer Xcal 2 ...plug-n-play....no problems......no shudders.
Yeah, we know.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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So has anyone asked Mike if he is going to custom tune or even carry these new live wires?
 
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