Ceramic Brake Pads!! no go
Originally Posted by kingfish51
They have already banned asbestos from pads, lead from fuel and paint. There i no reason why they wouldn't ban something els if they thought it was a safety hazard. Not saying that the reason given he couldn't get ceramic pads wasn't BS, but there are things banned for specific reasons.
Nor is lead.My hunch would be that it may be because of a very slight levels of Pb.
Originally Posted by RockPick
That's correct. Asbestos isn't 100% banned though.
Nor is lead.
My hunch would be that it may be because of a very slight levels of Pb.
Nor is lead.My hunch would be that it may be because of a very slight levels of Pb.
Not mined in the US but, Canada still has some great big chrysotile mines (even a serptine mine or two I think).
Heck man... you can get ACBM (asbestos containing building materials) at Lowes or Home Depot -- well, not by the legal definition of ACBM (that being greater than 1% by area) but, definitely has some... Check the back of a can of roof patch -- the last time I checked, the 5-gal bucket that I looked at said something to the effect of "Warning, this product may contain trace amounts of asbestos...".
There's still a need for some asbestos gaskets and such as well on certain systems...
When the government issues a ban on anything, there's almost ALWAYS a loop hole intentionally left in there just in case someone MUST have it.
Lead is another beast all together. Missouri is one of the primary sources in the WORLD for lead (Google Viburnum Lead). It's primary use is in lead-acid batteries (ie: what's in your truck) but, it's used in several other applications as well.
My only suspecion on the lead in the brake pads deal would be that it was banned because of trace amounts. Figure thousands (even millions) of folks running around with trace amounts of lead in their brake pads... well, eventually, that lead is going to find it's way to someone's front yard or into the water supply by fluvial or air travel. Compound it with a bunch of people depositing their fair share by applying their brakes and, presto... you have a problem. (this is why the majority of roadside samples along major/old roads will have high levels of asbestos -- ie: old brake linings).
It's not 100% banned...
Heck man... you can get ACBM (asbestos containing building materials) at Lowes or Home Depot -- well, not by the legal definition of ACBM (that being greater than 1% by area) but, definitely has some... Check the back of a can of roof patch -- the last time I checked, the 5-gal bucket that I looked at said something to the effect of "Warning, this product may contain trace amounts of asbestos...".
There's still a need for some asbestos gaskets and such as well on certain systems...
When the government issues a ban on anything, there's almost ALWAYS a loop hole intentionally left in there just in case someone MUST have it.
Lead is another beast all together. Missouri is one of the primary sources in the WORLD for lead (Google Viburnum Lead). It's primary use is in lead-acid batteries (ie: what's in your truck) but, it's used in several other applications as well.
My only suspecion on the lead in the brake pads deal would be that it was banned because of trace amounts. Figure thousands (even millions) of folks running around with trace amounts of lead in their brake pads... well, eventually, that lead is going to find it's way to someone's front yard or into the water supply by fluvial or air travel. Compound it with a bunch of people depositing their fair share by applying their brakes and, presto... you have a problem. (this is why the majority of roadside samples along major/old roads will have high levels of asbestos -- ie: old brake linings).
It's not 100% banned...
They were just blowing smoke up your a......well....you get the idea.
I've been running ceramics on mine since it was new. Inspected by a reputable facility (not the "just slap a sticker on" type), and no issues at all with ceramics on all four.
I can't for the life of me figure why they told you that. Maybe they didn't have them in stock and still wanted to make the sale. Who knows...
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I've been running ceramics on mine since it was new. Inspected by a reputable facility (not the "just slap a sticker on" type), and no issues at all with ceramics on all four.
I can't for the life of me figure why they told you that. Maybe they didn't have them in stock and still wanted to make the sale. Who knows...
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Bull
I can say that it is a bunch of bull... My brother is a licened inspector for the state and works for a county garage... he puts the ceramics on some of his problematic cars.... Which he couldnt do legally if they were baned in PA... So screw that
Originally Posted by kniz2004
I can say that it is a bunch of bull... My brother is a licened inspector for the state and works for a county garage... he puts the ceramics on some of his problematic cars.... Which he couldnt do legally if they were baned in PA... So screw that
There is alot about P.A. that I love, but that just makes me go "wtf?"
I'm gonna put them in anyways, then put a decal on my truck that says "I am not running ceramic pads" and see how that goes. Once the court day comes it will be like
Judge: "why are you being arrested?"
me: "Because of the ceramic brakepads in my F150"
LMAO
I'm gonna put them in anyways, then put a decal on my truck that says "I am not running ceramic pads" and see how that goes. Once the court day comes it will be like
Judge: "why are you being arrested?"
me: "Because of the ceramic brakepads in my F150"
LMAO
Ceramics used in industrial apps. are usually a compound of alumina. Did a little research, and ceramic brake pads are a mixture of ceramic and copper. Can't see a reason why PA would ban them. Looked on the PA DMV site and no mention. If it sounds like BS........
you can search up state codes online. I started to didn't have any luck but didn't really put in too much effort. I agree working for a police department they may get you for tint or lift but who is honestly going to look at your brakes and I highly doubt any of them know the code if it does exist
Originally Posted by Devin4X4
Hey everyone..well we took the truck down to the shop today to have new brake pads put on and the rotors cut. I planned on getting ceramic brake pads. Guess what...ceramic brake pads are illegal in PA??? Did anyone else know that. Couldnt believe it. This is an official inspection place so i guess i take their word for it. Not like police can pull you over for this. Just never heard of it before



