For those with 20s...
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Originally Posted by KC-10 FE
What are you saying??? NJ roads suck???
Yes! I was there myself a week or two ago on business and was absolutely flabbergasted at what horrible condition the roads are in up there! Every bonejarring pothole I hit I was thankful that I was in a rental car!
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Originally Posted by ddellwo
Yes! I was there myself a week or two ago on business and was absolutely flabbergasted at what horrible condition the roads are in up there! Every bonejarring pothole I hit I was thankful that I was in a rental car!
Just remember, everyone from NJ, EXCEPT ME, hates it when someone knocks the Garden State...KC-10 FE out...
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Originally Posted by KC-10 FE
You keep making comment like that and you might find a guy named Vinnie knocking on your front door with a Louisville slugger... Just remember, everyone from NJ, EXCEPT ME, hates it when someone knocks the Garden State...
KC-10 FE out...
Just remember, everyone from NJ, EXCEPT ME, hates it when someone knocks the Garden State...KC-10 FE out...
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Dang Guys!
Thanks for the quick replies! I just got done detailing the truck and came back inside to find a ton of replies! Some good info there!
The roads here in San Diego are pretty good for the most parts. But, there are always those "hidden" obstacles that pop up ever now and then. I have 275/40-17s on my Z28 and not a week after I got them, I hit a ladder on the freeway in the middle of the night. Tore up my left front tire and screwed up the wheel. I was pretty freaking pissed... Luckily, I talked my insurance into covering it under comprehensive and it only cost me $100 to fix a $500 problem.
However, I was reading where one of our members hit a pot hole with his truck and it flipped after the wheel broke off. Hard to say if that was cause of 22s or not though.
Potholes do bare their ugly heads around here. Fortunately, they usually fix them right away, but, will I hit one before then???
hmmm
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Thanks for the quick replies! I just got done detailing the truck and came back inside to find a ton of replies! Some good info there!
The roads here in San Diego are pretty good for the most parts. But, there are always those "hidden" obstacles that pop up ever now and then. I have 275/40-17s on my Z28 and not a week after I got them, I hit a ladder on the freeway in the middle of the night. Tore up my left front tire and screwed up the wheel. I was pretty freaking pissed... Luckily, I talked my insurance into covering it under comprehensive and it only cost me $100 to fix a $500 problem.
However, I was reading where one of our members hit a pot hole with his truck and it flipped after the wheel broke off. Hard to say if that was cause of 22s or not though.
Potholes do bare their ugly heads around here. Fortunately, they usually fix them right away, but, will I hit one before then???
hmmm
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Originally Posted by KC-10 FE
If you want: terrible ride, $400 per tire (for most that are available), greatly reduced load capacity & tow rating, rubber bands for tire that will NOT protect your new wheels the first time you hit a big pot hole, etc... Then get 22's or larger.
There are reasons trucks have taller side wall tires than cars. Trucks carry greater loads than cars and most of these aftermarket bling wheels have a dangerously low load capacity & the tires are no better. I know of at least one guy who's Pathfinder wheels BROKE when he hit a crater of a pothole. His were 24's. He now has 20's on it. If you use your truck as a truck, get no larger than 20's.
There are reasons trucks have taller side wall tires than cars. Trucks carry greater loads than cars and most of these aftermarket bling wheels have a dangerously low load capacity & the tires are no better. I know of at least one guy who's Pathfinder wheels BROKE when he hit a crater of a pothole. His were 24's. He now has 20's on it. If you use your truck as a truck, get no larger than 20's.
FIRST OFF...none of the OEM size 22s on tirerack or even close to $400 each. Second the the load rating difference between 22s and 20s is negligible (check the specs). Did you ever even look at any actual info on the subject before posting?
Finally I guess we need to tell Ford that you can't "USE" the HD F150 like as a truck because it has 22s on it??? Come on now...exactly what does it mean to "USE A TRUCK AS A TRUCK"? With a price around $40K, heated leather seats, climate control, and DVDs systems as popular factory options I would venture to say that the VAST majority of trucks are used as daily transportation on paved streets hauling only the drivers big arss around. If thats the case I think you can "USE A TRUCK AS A TRUCK" like most other trucks are used just fine with what ever size rims you want to run.
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That's a good point but anyone getting new wheels for a truck needs to check the load rating of the new wheels & tires. To say you will be surprised would be an understatement. One of the pilots I work with has a 'Sclade with 24's or some nonsense (spinners no less 
) & his wheels & tires actually DO NOT have enough load capacity for only the vehicle itself. His tire & wheels are rated for 3000lb/axle. His 'Sclade ESV (the one the size of a Suburban) weighs almost 7000lbs. His reply when I pointed this out: "Who cares, they look good". And they say enlisted guys are stupid...
) & his wheels & tires actually DO NOT have enough load capacity for only the vehicle itself. His tire & wheels are rated for 3000lb/axle. His 'Sclade ESV (the one the size of a Suburban) weighs almost 7000lbs. His reply when I pointed this out: "Who cares, they look good". And they say enlisted guys are stupid...Kumho Tire Specs
People should keep in mind that they are rims made for cars and rims made for trucks...if you get a 22 or 24in TRUCK rim you won't have any problems with 99% of the loads most people haul.
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to tell you the truth... i was in the same boat with the 20-22 debate. i went with 20's on 285/50's... the main reason i went with 20s is because of the towing needs that i had. if i didnt have the towing concerns i would have gone with 22's, based on looks alone, i just didnt feel comfortable towing a trailer with a sub 40 sidewall... and although im sure it may do just fine, it just gives me more of a comfort factor and a little more of a cushion. check out my gallery for pics. i have had a couple people comment on the rims and say 'wow those rims look nice, what size are they? 18's?'... 
these trucks do eat up the wheels, but overall i am quite happy with my 20's. if only they made a 21"...
these trucks do eat up the wheels, but overall i am quite happy with my 20's. if only they made a 21"...
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Not to be a ***** but I would have to question Kuhmo's load rating. My Goodyear 275/55/20 are rated at 2403lb. max load. Last time I checked Goodyear was #1 in tires. Second if you own a boat a camper ect. you care about load rating. If we all had 2wd "show trucks" we wouldn't use them as trucks either.
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Originally Posted by ddellwo
I'm assuming you're talking to me.....
If "Ernster500" were in Texas I'd probably tell him that I'd sell him my 22's (about 200 miles on them right now) for what it'd cost to get me the set of 20's I want.....
By the way, the rims are "Magnets" from American Racing Equipment.....
If "Ernster500" were in Texas I'd probably tell him that I'd sell him my 22's (about 200 miles on them right now) for what it'd cost to get me the set of 20's I want.....
By the way, the rims are "Magnets" from American Racing Equipment.....
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I was in the same boat on the 20” vs. 22” debate and I decided to go with the smaller wheels for two reasons. First, since we get winters up here that really tear up the roads, I wanted a bit of sidewall to absorb our Beirut style potholes. No, I don’t run my 20’s in the winter, but the potholes tend to stick around for year round enjoyment.
Second, I was a bit leery of ride and braking degradation due to the increase in unsprung weight with the bigger (and heavier) wheels and tires. I really didn’t want to end up with a truck that “rode like a floor jack.” When I see folks around here with “stupid large” diameter wheels and tires, I can only imagine whet they ride (and stop) like.
So how does my truck ride with the 20’s? It’s definitely harsher than stock, but not objectionably so. Depending on what tire and wheel combination you choose, your results may vary. I’m definitely going to change shocks though. As for the 22’s? Yea, they look great, but I’ll stay with my 20’s.
Second, I was a bit leery of ride and braking degradation due to the increase in unsprung weight with the bigger (and heavier) wheels and tires. I really didn’t want to end up with a truck that “rode like a floor jack.” When I see folks around here with “stupid large” diameter wheels and tires, I can only imagine whet they ride (and stop) like.
So how does my truck ride with the 20’s? It’s definitely harsher than stock, but not objectionably so. Depending on what tire and wheel combination you choose, your results may vary. I’m definitely going to change shocks though. As for the 22’s? Yea, they look great, but I’ll stay with my 20’s.
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Originally Posted by RamSS/T
FIRST OFF...none of the OEM size 22s on tirerack or even close to $400 each.
because my 24in Kumhos have a max load rating of 5200lbs an axle.
because my 24in Kumhos have a max load rating of 5200lbs an axle.
I purchase 90% of my tires from TIRERACK.COM. They are great & I recommend them wholeheartedly. Here's where it gets tricky...
You're on vacation 400 miles from home. You're riding down the road on your blings & rubber bands. WHAT THE!!! Darn it a flat tire... If you didn't ruin your wheel just from that, now you're on the side of the road changing a tire. It's shot, you need a new one. Since you're not at home (meaning not near your mailing address) you can't call Tirerack and get a new one till you get home. You have to go to "Main Street Auto Bling & Beepers" to get a new one because NO PLACE else in town has such a ridiculous size. Now, you WILL shell out $400+ per tire. You have no choice because running two different size tires on the same axle for an extended period will f up something. That's why running such a stupid size for a tire doesn't make sense. Several trucks come with 275/55/20 as an OEM now so you can get them at any Sear or Walmart.
As far as the using a "truck as a truck", I will never understand why people who have no need for a full size truck/suv buy them. You get lousy mileage, lousy handling, cramped interiors, etc & you pay extra for it. My parents raised 3 kids using a 1973 Chevy Belair 4 door. Now, people buy a freaking Suburban just because they have one piglet. Then people complain about traffic congestion and high fuel prices. Sorry, this just doesn't make sense.
The SINGLE ONLY reason I own a SCAB Lariat is because the insurance prices in NJ forced me to buy a new truck. I wanted to buy a GTI or Honda S2000 & keep my 91 Chevy. I have legitimate truck needs so having one was pretty much a necessity. The insurance for those vehicles was $3000/year just for that vehicle. If I added my other vehicles in, it would have been almost $5000 a year & I have a spotless record. I figured that if I can only afford the insurance one one vehicle, I wanted to get the nicest I could afford. I actually don't like driving a truck, I like driving a nimble sports car or a big coupe.
KC-10 FE out...
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Originally Posted by KC-10 FE
All I'm going to say about the 24's: You go on believing that those rubber bands referred to as tires have a load rating of 5200lb/axle or 2600lb/per. Sorry, I don't care what the Kumho website says, I simply ain't buying it.
I purchase 90% of my tires from TIRERACK.COM. They are great & I recommend them wholeheartedly. Here's where it gets tricky...
You're on vacation 400 miles from home. You're riding down the road on your blings & rubber bands. WHAT THE!!! Darn it a flat tire... If you didn't ruin your wheel just from that, now you're on the side of the road changing a tire. It's shot, you need a new one. Since you're not at home (meaning not near your mailing address) you can't call Tirerack and get a new one till you get home. You have to go to "Main Street Auto Bling & Beepers" to get a new one because NO PLACE else in town has such a ridiculous size. Now, you WILL shell out $400+ per tire. You have no choice because running two different size tires on the same axle for an extended period will f up something. That's why running such a stupid size for a tire doesn't make sense. Several trucks come with 275/55/20 as an OEM now so you can get them at any Sear or Walmart.
I purchase 90% of my tires from TIRERACK.COM. They are great & I recommend them wholeheartedly. Here's where it gets tricky...
You're on vacation 400 miles from home. You're riding down the road on your blings & rubber bands. WHAT THE!!! Darn it a flat tire... If you didn't ruin your wheel just from that, now you're on the side of the road changing a tire. It's shot, you need a new one. Since you're not at home (meaning not near your mailing address) you can't call Tirerack and get a new one till you get home. You have to go to "Main Street Auto Bling & Beepers" to get a new one because NO PLACE else in town has such a ridiculous size. Now, you WILL shell out $400+ per tire. You have no choice because running two different size tires on the same axle for an extended period will f up something. That's why running such a stupid size for a tire doesn't make sense. Several trucks come with 275/55/20 as an OEM now so you can get them at any Sear or Walmart.
BFG-4550
Yokohama-4960
Avon-4960
Perelli-4960
I don't care if you "believe" printed facts or not...I am sure the manufactures know more about their products than you do. My point being that the statement you made about your co-workers 24s only having a load rating of 3000lbs/axle is total bullschit!
As for the getting a flat away from home or what ever....big deal. If I needed to I can always put the spare on the front and matching tires on the back and drive it home...two different size on the front wont hurt anything. Worst case scenario I would just have to spend the money and buy another tire...hell $500 for a tire isn't a big deal if you already have $5K in the set your running. Hey you got to pay to play....I mean after all some people don't limit their tire choices as to what available at the local Sears or Walmart.
I think what you are talking about applies a lot more to some of the lifted guys running 35s or bigger than it would to someone running a 22in rim (as the original post was about) with a nearly stock height tire.With that said the ironic thing is my local Sears store DOES stock 305-35-24 Kumhos....go figure! lol