"Industrial Fallout" Glass was sand blasted
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"Industrial Fallout" Glass was sand blasted
My truck was out in the desert and the wind was blowing hard.
My side view mirrors and back window were sand blasted.
The paint is all fine.
5000 miles on an 05 lariat 4X4.
Took it to the dealer and he said they will replace the side view mirrors and take the truck to the body shop for what he call Industrial Fallout. The truck will get a full detail and if they can't fix the glass they are going to replace it.
The dealer also told me they can send a car/truck in for Industrial Fallout twice a year.
My side view mirrors and back window were sand blasted.
The paint is all fine.
5000 miles on an 05 lariat 4X4.
Took it to the dealer and he said they will replace the side view mirrors and take the truck to the body shop for what he call Industrial Fallout. The truck will get a full detail and if they can't fix the glass they are going to replace it.
The dealer also told me they can send a car/truck in for Industrial Fallout twice a year.
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Industrial fall out isn't a sand blasting thing... further, I don't believe that removing 'industrial fallout' will help with your glass problem...
Fallout is, well, fallout. It's a variation of 'stuff' that settles on your paint and is transported by way of air/wind movement. This stuff varies from paint over spray to particulate matter from manufacturing to rail dust to acidic rain. It's a VERY broad category.
What they're probably going to do is detail the vehicle and ship it back to you... it's that simple.
Twice per year... probably not a bad plan to detail a vehicle, top to bottom, twice a year and thus, I won't argue that point. I will say that different environmental settings will require differing schedules on how often something like this should take place...
Let me be blunt here and say that I'm not trying to discredit your dealership. I'm sure that they're a bang-up group of professionals that are trying to help you out but, I just wanted to clarify that a simple 'acid wash' or 'clay' treatment will not help your glass situation... if, indeed, it's been 'peppered' by sand thus causing abrasion on the glass. Further, I believe that if your glass was peppered, that your paint was peppered.
You see, glass is harder than paint. It's actually a lot harder than paint (think of it this way -- when was the last time you saw 'swirl marks' on someone's glass? Swirl marks are scratches -- you 99 times out of 100 see them on paint alone). With that in mind, I'd be certain that what you're dealing with is actual 'micro-chipping' of your glass and not that something has adhered to your glass via mechanical methods like air movement.
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Fallout is, well, fallout. It's a variation of 'stuff' that settles on your paint and is transported by way of air/wind movement. This stuff varies from paint over spray to particulate matter from manufacturing to rail dust to acidic rain. It's a VERY broad category.
What they're probably going to do is detail the vehicle and ship it back to you... it's that simple.
Twice per year... probably not a bad plan to detail a vehicle, top to bottom, twice a year and thus, I won't argue that point. I will say that different environmental settings will require differing schedules on how often something like this should take place...
Let me be blunt here and say that I'm not trying to discredit your dealership. I'm sure that they're a bang-up group of professionals that are trying to help you out but, I just wanted to clarify that a simple 'acid wash' or 'clay' treatment will not help your glass situation... if, indeed, it's been 'peppered' by sand thus causing abrasion on the glass. Further, I believe that if your glass was peppered, that your paint was peppered.
You see, glass is harder than paint. It's actually a lot harder than paint (think of it this way -- when was the last time you saw 'swirl marks' on someone's glass? Swirl marks are scratches -- you 99 times out of 100 see them on paint alone). With that in mind, I'd be certain that what you're dealing with is actual 'micro-chipping' of your glass and not that something has adhered to your glass via mechanical methods like air movement.
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Originally Posted by RockPick
Industrial fall out isn't a sand blasting thing... further, I don't believe that removing 'industrial fallout' will help with your glass problem...
Fallout is, well, fallout. It's a variation of 'stuff' that settles on your paint and is transported by way of air/wind movement. This stuff varies from paint over spray to particulate matter from manufacturing to rail dust to acidic rain. It's a VERY broad category.
What they're probably going to do is detail the vehicle and ship it back to you... it's that simple.
Twice per year... probably not a bad plan to detail a vehicle, top to bottom, twice a year and thus, I won't argue that point. I will say that different environmental settings will require differing schedules on how often something like this should take place...
Let me be blunt here and say that I'm not trying to discredit your dealership. I'm sure that they're a bang-up group of professionals that are trying to help you out but, I just wanted to clarify that a simple 'acid wash' or 'clay' treatment will not help your glass situation... if, indeed, it's been 'peppered' by sand thus causing abrasion on the glass. Further, I believe that if your glass was peppered, that your paint was peppered.
You see, glass is harder than paint. It's actually a lot harder than paint (think of it this way -- when was the last time you saw 'swirl marks' on someone's glass? Swirl marks are scratches -- you 99 times out of 100 see them on paint alone). With that in mind, I'd be certain that what you're dealing with is actual 'micro-chipping' of your glass and not that something has adhered to your glass via mechanical methods like air movement.
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Fallout is, well, fallout. It's a variation of 'stuff' that settles on your paint and is transported by way of air/wind movement. This stuff varies from paint over spray to particulate matter from manufacturing to rail dust to acidic rain. It's a VERY broad category.
What they're probably going to do is detail the vehicle and ship it back to you... it's that simple.
Twice per year... probably not a bad plan to detail a vehicle, top to bottom, twice a year and thus, I won't argue that point. I will say that different environmental settings will require differing schedules on how often something like this should take place...
Let me be blunt here and say that I'm not trying to discredit your dealership. I'm sure that they're a bang-up group of professionals that are trying to help you out but, I just wanted to clarify that a simple 'acid wash' or 'clay' treatment will not help your glass situation... if, indeed, it's been 'peppered' by sand thus causing abrasion on the glass. Further, I believe that if your glass was peppered, that your paint was peppered.
You see, glass is harder than paint. It's actually a lot harder than paint (think of it this way -- when was the last time you saw 'swirl marks' on someone's glass? Swirl marks are scratches -- you 99 times out of 100 see them on paint alone). With that in mind, I'd be certain that what you're dealing with is actual 'micro-chipping' of your glass and not that something has adhered to your glass via mechanical methods like air movement.
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It was Sand, back at Thanksgiving we had the hardest blowing wind we ever saw at our favorite OHV spot. Trailers were falling off their jacks no fun riding spent the whole time in the toyhauler wind wind wind. wind was blowing from the back of the truck.
Toyhauler may have saved the paint as it looks fine. Side view mirrors are real bad hard to see out of them at night and the back window has what looks like white paint splatter but when you feel it it's pitted. A buddy of mine had his freshly painted 4X4 and it was fine, Parked facing the wind.
Picked the truck up today and the dealer said we have to wait for the ford rep before replacing the back window glass. He said the glass has a 1 year warranty
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Originally Posted by RockPick
Industrial fall out isn't a sand blasting thing... further, I don't believe that removing 'industrial fallout' will help with your glass problem...
Fallout is, well, fallout. It's a variation of 'stuff' that settles on your paint and is transported by way of air/wind movement. This stuff varies from paint over spray to particulate matter from manufacturing to rail dust to acidic rain. It's a VERY broad category.
What they're probably going to do is detail the vehicle and ship it back to you... it's that simple.
Twice per year... probably not a bad plan to detail a vehicle, top to bottom, twice a year and thus, I won't argue that point. I will say that different environmental settings will require differing schedules on how often something like this should take place...
Let me be blunt here and say that I'm not trying to discredit your dealership. I'm sure that they're a bang-up group of professionals that are trying to help you out but, I just wanted to clarify that a simple 'acid wash' or 'clay' treatment will not help your glass situation... if, indeed, it's been 'peppered' by sand thus causing abrasion on the glass. Further, I believe that if your glass was peppered, that your paint was peppered.
You see, glass is harder than paint. It's actually a lot harder than paint (think of it this way -- when was the last time you saw 'swirl marks' on someone's glass? Swirl marks are scratches -- you 99 times out of 100 see them on paint alone). With that in mind, I'd be certain that what you're dealing with is actual 'micro-chipping' of your glass and not that something has adhered to your glass via mechanical methods like air movement.
RP
Fallout is, well, fallout. It's a variation of 'stuff' that settles on your paint and is transported by way of air/wind movement. This stuff varies from paint over spray to particulate matter from manufacturing to rail dust to acidic rain. It's a VERY broad category.
What they're probably going to do is detail the vehicle and ship it back to you... it's that simple.
Twice per year... probably not a bad plan to detail a vehicle, top to bottom, twice a year and thus, I won't argue that point. I will say that different environmental settings will require differing schedules on how often something like this should take place...
Let me be blunt here and say that I'm not trying to discredit your dealership. I'm sure that they're a bang-up group of professionals that are trying to help you out but, I just wanted to clarify that a simple 'acid wash' or 'clay' treatment will not help your glass situation... if, indeed, it's been 'peppered' by sand thus causing abrasion on the glass. Further, I believe that if your glass was peppered, that your paint was peppered.
You see, glass is harder than paint. It's actually a lot harder than paint (think of it this way -- when was the last time you saw 'swirl marks' on someone's glass? Swirl marks are scratches -- you 99 times out of 100 see them on paint alone). With that in mind, I'd be certain that what you're dealing with is actual 'micro-chipping' of your glass and not that something has adhered to your glass via mechanical methods like air movement.
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That RP sure knows his stuff ...
I went with some of his detailing pointers back in '04 when I first got my rig and had ALL the so-called detail heads in my neck of the woods talking it up.
Most of 'em belong to the local low-rider clubs with their dropped Toyotas
Beamers and Benzs..... Now all I gotta do is get myself motivated ( and off
my butt ) and get this winter off my paint .......
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Originally Posted by RockPick
Glad to hear that they took care of it for you...
I was just going in for a free oil change and the service writer started talking about fixing my mirrors and window.
I was shocked to get a free detail, They did a great job on that.
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I'm always leary of the 'detail guy' at the local stealership but, I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule... 
Best of luck!
Just FYI... I believe this end result was from a 'detail' at a local stealership... truck is a 02' Harley Davidson F-150...
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Best of luck!Just FYI... I believe this end result was from a 'detail' at a local stealership... truck is a 02' Harley Davidson F-150...
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Originally Posted by RockPick
I'm always leary of the 'detail guy' at the local stealership but, I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule... Best of luck!
Just FYI... I believe this end result was from a 'detail' at a local stealership... truck is a 02' Harley Davidson F-150...
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Best of luck!Just FYI... I believe this end result was from a 'detail' at a local stealership... truck is a 02' Harley Davidson F-150...
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The dealer sent the truck out to a body shop for the detail.
I guess i got lucky just took a real good look and truck looks real good except for the window/mirrors.
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Originally Posted by js1600
I would hate for them to mess it up like that.
The dealer sent the truck out to a body shop for the detail.
I guess i got lucky just took a real good look and truck looks real good except for the window/mirrors.
The dealer sent the truck out to a body shop for the detail.
I guess i got lucky just took a real good look and truck looks real good except for the window/mirrors.
I recently spoke with a local dealership about offering 'premium detailing' to their clientele as an 'add-on' package to new vehicle purchases... I'm still waiting for an answer on that. Maybe that'll perk up the biz on the weekends -- been kind of dead here from the buisiness front... too early in the spring I guess.
Anyway, I wanted to clarify -- I didn't detail that lid on the truck... just an example. I do, however, feel confident that I could've come up with those results.
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Originally Posted by js1600
Thanks for all of the info there is still so much I need to learn about detailing a car.
Sure thing...
Be sure to swing through the Detailing forum if and when you ever have a question... there are several the frequent our forums that are VERY talented.
Also, off topic, I use an air analytical laboratory in Simi Valley... just a tidbit of information. LOL!
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