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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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Is this the OEM backup sensor or equivalent, anyone have any input on this? I think I've finally found the F150 I want to purchase and I've been talking with him, but it doesn't have backup sensors. Anyway to purchase the OEM button and dashplate as well as the entire system? Anyone have the part # & price. I found the above link on ebay, but do you think it's equivalent to the OEM.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Had an unrelated question not worth a new topic. Recalibrating the speedo will also effect the mileage, I am buying an 04 F150 and would like to know if this effected the Odometer and maybe it shows a few thousand miles lower than it is. I understand he'd have to live with a lower mph reading but other than that he is actually saving resale value if this is the case. I believe this is possible with the Xcal2, and he's reflashing back to original before handing it over, so I have no way to tell, and he's not giving me the programmer, which I don't really mind. Will it work in a different truck or only on the first truck you use it on.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Josiah
Rear Parking Assist
Is this the OEM backup sensor or equivalent, anyone have any input on this? I think I've finally found the F150 I want to purchase and I've been talking with him, but it doesn't have backup sensors. Anyway to purchase the OEM button and dashplate as well as the entire system? Anyone have the part # & price. I found the above link on ebay, but do you think it's equivalent to the OEM.
I just installed this system last Wed. in my screw with the 2 sensers and it works great. The display is in feet also. I didnt have an ebay account so I e-mailed them and had it at my house in 7 days. Cost was $58.00 total. I might even pick up a few others. The only thing I would do different is get the 4 sensers instead. Also get the drill bit for $2.00. Hook up was easy also.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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I just installed this system last Wed. in my screw with the 2 sensers and it works great. The display is in feet also. I didnt have an ebay account so I e-mailed them and had it at my house in 7 days. Cost was $58.00 total. I might even pick up a few others. The only thing I would do different is get the 4 sensers instead. Also get the drill bit for $2.00. Hook up was easy also.
Do you have any pics of the install, mainly the interior of where you located everything. Is there a disable button so it's not on all the time and what about lowering the radio volume when in reverse, does it have those features like the OEM product. Also, why would you need the drill bit, aren't the holes predrilled and just empty if you don't get the parking assist option?
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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How hard was the install?

If you can lets see pictures of where you put the sensors and how you mounted everything in the cab. I really would like to add the rear-assist to my truck but Im not sure if I want to drill into the bumper for the other two sensors. Would it work good with just two sensors in the black plastic?
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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I bought one from ebay awhile back, got one with 4 sensors and digitial readout and audio for $85. It also includes drill piece. I mounted exactly where oem is located and readout near rearview mirror so that I can view mirror and readout at the same time. It took about 4 hrs, I made sure sensor box and wiring didn't interfere with truck's electricial system under the bed. It worked great. Now to answer your ? on calibration...yes it will be slower speedo with lower mileage on odo, this will be based on larger diameter of the tire than OEM size.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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...and makesure use coat of paint (matching to bumper of course) so that drilled hole doesn't rust out over time.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Josiah
Do you have any pics of the install, mainly the interior of where you located everything. Is there a disable button so it's not on all the time and what about lowering the radio volume when in reverse, does it have those features like the OEM product. Also, why would you need the drill bit, aren't the holes predrilled and just empty if you don't get the parking assist option?
I dont have pic yet, because its been raining to the point of flooding the last 7 days but I will answer your questions. First let me explain Im handicapped, I lost the use of my right arm in a bad motorcycle accident in 99. ( that how easy it is to hook it up) This unit doesnt lower the radio in any way and it doesnt need to really. The sound comes out of the display which is mounted on the edge of the dash tray closes to the windshield right in the middle. (some people have mounted it on top of the rear view mirror)
I mounted the sensers about 1ft out word from the edge of the license plate edge in the middle of the bumper from top to bottom. I spliced off the reverse light wire on the driver side above the inside bumper and grounded to the chasis right there. Ran cable along the wiring harness to the back door of the cab. There is a little rubber grommit that I pocked through which leads right into the door sill channel. (pull up on sill to remove it) That channel leads right up to the front kick panel. Ran the wires up under the dash which has plenty of room up into the display. I pulled the front dash plate off and the dash tray to run the wires a lot more easy. The brain or box this mounts into is in the back under the bed. I had to make a water proof box to put it into which I will install as soon as it stops raining. The system is nice and only comes on when the truck is in reverse. I hope that answers most of your questions.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Josiah
Do you have any pics of the install, mainly the interior of where you located everything. Is there a disable button so it's not on all the time and what about lowering the radio volume when in reverse, does it have those features like the OEM product. Also, why would you need the drill bit, aren't the holes predrilled and just empty if you don't get the parking assist option?
I have the chrome bumper and the chrome is not drilled.(easy ) and the sensers snap right in. If you get the 2 sensers the have to be out word but the work really good.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Josiah
Had an unrelated question not worth a new topic. Recalibrating the speedo will also effect the mileage, I am buying an 04 F150 and would like to know if this effected the Odometer and maybe it shows a few thousand miles lower than it is. I understand he'd have to live with a lower mph reading but other than that he is actually saving resale value if this is the case. I believe this is possible with the Xcal2, and he's reflashing back to original before handing it over, so I have no way to tell, and he's not giving me the programmer, which I don't really mind. Will it work in a different truck or only on the first truck you use it on.
If you suspect the odometer has been tampered then I would walk away from the deal. Yes a programmer could change the tire size which would throw off the speedometer and cause a vehicle to show less mileage than the truck odometer reads.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 04NickySP2
If you suspect the odometer has been tampered then I would walk away from the deal. Yes a programmer could change the tire size which would throw off the speedometer and cause a vehicle to show less mileage than the truck odometer reads.
Just a suspicion right now.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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I dont have pic yet, because its been raining to the point of flooding the last 7 days but I will answer your questions. First let me explain Im handicapped, I lost the use of my right arm in a bad motorcycle accident in 99. ( that how easy it is to hook it up) This unit doesnt lower the radio in any way and it doesnt need to really. The sound comes out of the display which is mounted on the edge of the dash tray closes to the windshield right in the middle. (some people have mounted it on top of the rear view mirror)
I mounted the sensers about 1ft out word from the edge of the license plate edge in the middle of the bumper from top to bottom. I spliced off the reverse light wire on the driver side above the inside bumper and grounded to the chasis right there. Ran cable along the wiring harness to the back door of the cab. There is a little rubber grommit that I pocked through which leads right into the door sill channel. (pull up on sill to remove it) That channel leads right up to the front kick panel. Ran the wires up under the dash which has plenty of room up into the display. I pulled the front dash plate off and the dash tray to run the wires a lot more easy. The brain or box this mounts into is in the back under the bed. I had to make a water proof box to put it into which I will install as soon as it stops raining. The system is nice and only comes on when the truck is in reverse. I hope that answers most of your questions.

How hard would it be to rig this system up with a toggle switch so you could set it to where it wont come on while in reverse? I pull a bass boat about 3-4 days a week, that would be annoying backing it up... but I would love to have it for parallel parking here at work..
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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Just a suspicion right now.
It's true you can adjust the speedo with a tuner, but remember, you are telling the transmission and PCM that you changed to larger tires.

If you didn't really change you would find the tranny etc. shifting, running strangely, just as if you had put too small of tire on it
Also, the amount that the tuners will adjust and still be able to drive the truck is not all that great.

In fact, since it seems you are saying he had larger than stock tires on the truck, the tuner would make it more correct. If you put larger tires on it and don’t use a tuner/ dealer to adjust the tire size, you would be ‘cheating’ the miles, as larger tires under report the Odometer.
The fact that he had a tuner makes it more likely that the miles are correct.

As a cheat on mileage driven using a tuner to fudge the miles on the OD is not a very good solution.

You would only gain a fraction of the cost of tuner, as say 5 or 10 percent of the mileage off would not be a huge price difference, but driving it 5 or 10 percent out of adjustment would cost you more in gas from the way it would shift and run at less than optimum. Remember the tuner works by telling the truck what to expect from the tires. It has no direct connection to the odometer; you can’t ‘reset’ the miles or anything like that.


Now if he swapped the cluster or some such thing, there would be no trace, and unless Carfax caught it you would have no way to tell.

Good luck with it,
Chris
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by RjA150
How hard would it be to rig this system up with a toggle switch so you could set it to where it wont come on while in reverse? I pull a bass boat about 3-4 days a week, that would be annoying backing it up... but I would love to have it for parallel parking here at work..
That wouldnt be a problem, I thought about doing it myself but I dont tow that much. You would need to tap into a wire that is hot all the time or the reverse wire and run it to a swith then out to the control box (brain).
 
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Now if he swapped the cluster or some such thing, there would be no trace, and unless Carfax caught it you would have no way to tell.
XLT and FX4 owners are swapping their clusters for Lariat clusters, I really doubt they're resetting their mileage, I would believe that would be a fairly complicated process and not contained in the cluster (maybe the PCM). I hack and mod my cell phone (Razr V3) and am very mechanically aware of systems like this but still wouldn't exactly know where to begin, just an idea. Getting it to connect to a computer would be the most difficult part.
 
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