Vibration ACK! NO FIX??
Vibration
They placed a dampner kit for my rear end today. The service manager stated that it helped out with the rear end vibration. I don't think it did. My steering wheel still nibbles, my seats shake and vibrate back and forth, and my hood shakes like it is going to bump off. This is the forth thing they have done to my truck to include new ring and pinion, new rotars, new brakes, 2 new sets of tires and wheels. I am closing in on 12k miles and will likely turn this over to the DSB. Does anyone have any advice to get Ford to buy this truck back?
Update: I received a call from the regional Ford rep after waiting 2 weeks. To sum it up: The vibrations you are feeling are present in all of the new F-150's. It is harmonic ressinace(sp?) due to the stiffer frame. So we need you to bend over and take one for the team and quit griping. She asked that I not jump ship on Ford and please keep driving the vehicle and hopefully over the next year or two they can come up with something to fix it. Since I was such a loyal Ford customer they offered me a 5/75000 ext. warranty to go away.
So the answer on the vibration as far as I can tell is : All of them do it so that makes it ok.
So the answer on the vibration as far as I can tell is : All of them do it so that makes it ok.
My vibe problems are like many of the others in here. Truck has been in the shop for a total of 45 days with 7 return trips to two different dealers. The following repairs have been done so far. Two new sets of tires, rebalance and then road force balanced; re-index tires, replaced transmission and cab mounts, new driveshaft. Then I talked with the service manger and asked him to call in the regional ford tech. A week later he shows up and drive my truck, he said I did have a problem and replaced the ring and pinion and re drove. He said it was not right and service manger called me saying that he ordered more parts. The service manger did not know what he ordered but should be in today. Only thing I can say is good to know it was just not me! But I have to question how long do I put up with this?
56, The regional ford tech just called and said that putting a new transmission is the next step. Then I asked if that would fix it he just said that was the next step. If they keep throwing parts at it I will have a new truck if they buy it back or not. Will put you updated.
Originally Posted by DGolfGuy
56, The regional ford tech just called and said that putting a new transmission is the next step. Then I asked if that would fix it he just said that was the next step. If they keep throwing parts at it I will have a new truck if they buy it back or not. Will put you updated.
here we go again!
ok, this looks like a new wave of complaints about the vibration syndrome.
search for a thread called "and now back to the vibration", I think it is the most viewed thread on this board. There are many reasons for the "vibration". It appears that ford has constructed a chassis that is simply too sensitive to the manufacturing tolerances of many of the components such as wheels, tires, hubs, driveshafts, rear gears, you name it. For me it's tires, for others the driveshaft fixes it, for others brake rotors. I have never read or heard of the "damper" fixing any of it. Here's a link to the Ford tsb's on the issue. Take these to your dealer and verify that they are following all the steps.
http://www.tremainegarage.com/tsbs/
search for a thread called "and now back to the vibration", I think it is the most viewed thread on this board. There are many reasons for the "vibration". It appears that ford has constructed a chassis that is simply too sensitive to the manufacturing tolerances of many of the components such as wheels, tires, hubs, driveshafts, rear gears, you name it. For me it's tires, for others the driveshaft fixes it, for others brake rotors. I have never read or heard of the "damper" fixing any of it. Here's a link to the Ford tsb's on the issue. Take these to your dealer and verify that they are following all the steps.
http://www.tremainegarage.com/tsbs/
vib
mine had the vibe so bad your hands would fall asleep holding the wheel, after drive shaft bal.-- road force balancing--new tire-- changing the drive shaft pitch-- nothing worked, then a fac. tech came and said he was sure it was in the rear end, he said it could be anything in there, or any part of the assy. so he ordered a complete new assy, rite down to the brake pads, unbolted one and installed the new one, and instantly a nice smooth riding trk. that was at 3000 miles, still great at 13,500, inhearent my ####, I believe there is a bad run of rear ends out there, ill bet a new rear end assy, not "ring and pinion" entire assy. will fix your problems. My dealer was great and dedicated to finding and fixing the problem. Find another dealer!
Now i dont own an 04 or 05 so i dont know what the vibe feels like,but do you guys think it might be from the new rear shock placement being as how Ford has put them on the outside of the frame? Since that is to make the truck more stable during turning right? Also would the type of shocks that Ford is using make a difference, stiffer shock would cause more vibe like when the ricers drop their cars and it looks like it is bouncing down the road at night. I wish you all good luck in dealing with the dealerships, as it sounds like some are better at customer service then others.
And I was thinking about trading in my 03 next spring but i might wait to make sure all the new bugs are gone.
And I was thinking about trading in my 03 next spring but i might wait to make sure all the new bugs are gone.
Do the 05 and 04's have the same frame? If so, do the 05's have this same vib problem? If not, then it's not the frame....Would like to know if 05's are doing this before I take delivery of my 05 fx4 next week.
Thanks,
Brian
Thanks,
Brian
well the offered me the 5year 75000 mile s--t also to keep me from going through the lemon law process. the regional rep said my vib between 45 and 50 is characteristic of these trucks and will not replace my truck cause she did not think it would de value my truck! bulls--it! why would the do over $4000 dollars of repairs to my truck and then say it's characteristic. well put that in you f--king add for the truck. mine has gotten a bit better in the 40 or so days the have had it. before the last repair i went for a ride with the FSE he had them change upper control arms, tie rod ends, tires again, rotors, roadforce balance and the f--ker is the same or a little worse than when i brought it in!! and he never came back to drive it again! the service mgr made the call that it is a characteristic. by chance he drove one with the same problem and went by that one! i drove another fx4 a few months ago and it drove smooth as silk, nothing through the steering wheel, and drove another yesterday and also not a thing through wheels. judt waiting to hear from the lemon law lawyer to see which direction to go being that its better but still there. don't think i could live with it. sorry for so long
Originally Posted by cards89
They are doing the same thing with mine. I requested a DSB hearing, and had the paper work in, but that organization is no longer in place. Let me know if they decide to finally buy your truck back.
There's lots of '04s and '05s running around that drive just fine. My '04 Lariat Supercab is vibe free after a few miles when the tires heat up, they flatspot overnight so I get a little steering wheel nibble when cold. Nothing really bad.
The stiffer frame thing has merit. Think of your truck's frame as a big tuning fork. Now, let's drill holes in it, cut the boxing out of the inside, make it weak and flexy (relatively speaking). Strike a surface with it, and you'll get a dull thud. Let's take that same tuning fork, box the insides, fill the holes in, add some bracing, smooth the lines. Now it resonates a clean, crisp tone. Ford's built the strongest and stiffest F150 chassis yet. Unfortunately, this can make some ambient vibrations and road imperfections that wasn't felt in the previous generation, "inferior" (again, relatively) chassis more prevalent. This is why Ford instructs dealers in some cases to replace the body mounts in some trucks, to reduce/insulate the transfer path from the frame into the cab. That's the same reasoning behind the revised transmission mount for some 4x4 pickups as well.
Unfortunately, even with the latest and greatest vibration analyzers and top notch NVH techs, vibration concerns are difficult to diagnose and repair. That's from first hand experience. Often times, it takes a shot (or fifteen) in the dark before any progress is made towards resolving the concern. Sometimes, all efforts can be exhausted and a satisfactory repair won't be achieved. In the face of factory support, or lack thereof, about the only thing dealers can do is try. What they get from that varies depending on the truck and the tech.
The stiffer frame thing has merit. Think of your truck's frame as a big tuning fork. Now, let's drill holes in it, cut the boxing out of the inside, make it weak and flexy (relatively speaking). Strike a surface with it, and you'll get a dull thud. Let's take that same tuning fork, box the insides, fill the holes in, add some bracing, smooth the lines. Now it resonates a clean, crisp tone. Ford's built the strongest and stiffest F150 chassis yet. Unfortunately, this can make some ambient vibrations and road imperfections that wasn't felt in the previous generation, "inferior" (again, relatively) chassis more prevalent. This is why Ford instructs dealers in some cases to replace the body mounts in some trucks, to reduce/insulate the transfer path from the frame into the cab. That's the same reasoning behind the revised transmission mount for some 4x4 pickups as well.
Unfortunately, even with the latest and greatest vibration analyzers and top notch NVH techs, vibration concerns are difficult to diagnose and repair. That's from first hand experience. Often times, it takes a shot (or fifteen) in the dark before any progress is made towards resolving the concern. Sometimes, all efforts can be exhausted and a satisfactory repair won't be achieved. In the face of factory support, or lack thereof, about the only thing dealers can do is try. What they get from that varies depending on the truck and the tech.



