has anyone changed out their power window switch for the passenger window ( driver controled) for a one touch down switch like the drivers window is on? Im tired of having to hold down the passenger window switch to roll my windows down.

 

2 payments down and 3100 miles.

 

I'm interested in this as well.

 

The drivers switches on the four window unit are a single large switch. I think the two window is also.

Just use a ford express module
F2DB-14B118-AB
ten minute install and you can get them for next to nothing in a salvage yard, for 15 bucks on e-bay, or for about 50 from the dealer.

I have four in my truck, both windows are express up and express down.
Chris

 

I came across this in my research, looks interesting.

AutoLoc - WC1000

Dave

 

"I came across this in my research, looks interesting.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/li...?itemid=WC1000

Dave"

That looks good. It's two of the ford modules in one unit.
40 bucks isn't too bad, wonder what shipping is?

I pay about 1.25-1.50 each for the ford modules, but, then I have to drive to the yard, and use a screwdriver to pull them.
Chris

 

Could you put both the express modules and the remote modules on?

 

I don't know if any of you guys have young kids but if so be carefull of those one touch down with the one touch up modules. The car companies have changed their toggle design so that pushing the switch down lowers the window instead of raising it as young kids were getting their heads/necks accidentally caught in the windows while playing in the car by kneeling or standing on the switch. Some of these kids were strangled to death. I'm sure you've all seen the stories on the news but just an FYI. for those who have not.

Drove the kids to school in the wifes car this morning. I guess it's the rocker switch in general that was the problem. I noticed she has the push/pull toggle for the windows.

Scott

 

Most one touch up/down window systems have interruption switches in them to sense physical resistance when the window is going up. I doubt these add ons people are doing do though.

 

Chris Adams, what vehicles are you getting these modules out of?
F2DB prefix, 1992 Taurus?
Can you offer any insturctions as to where to find it in an old Taurus, and where it plugs into a 2005 F 150?
Thanx

 

All the modules, Fords' stock and all aftermarket, etc. have 'resistance sensors' in them. It's how the system works. When you engage an express module, of any sort, and by any maker, the logic loop is

" if signal is detected, is signal 100 milliseconds, +/- 50 milliseconds. If yes, then engage for 10,000 milliseconds. If no, then do not engage.
If load increases 50%, then go to disengage"

That is the way the system has to work. So when you engage the window down, it runs for 10 seconds. If your motor is slow, battery is low, etc. It doesn't quite hit the bottom before the module disconnects. Assuming your window is halfway down, it goes to the bottom, the resistance increases, and it quits.
Without the modules ability to sense increased load, if you express down your window, when it is already 90% down, you would fry the motor.

So how much resistance does it take to stop the window? Well, as I have previously posted, sticking your arm in the way stops it nicely. so does grabbing the glass when it is trying to go down.


As I have posted several times, express up should only be used by people that don't let small children have the keys to their car.

Of course, with the window switches mounted where they on my truck, I defy you to catch yourself in the window. I had to have help to get 'caught' in my testing.

If you feel express up is dangerous, don't install it, of course.

Or express down. The exact same complaints are made about express down, but most companies put it in anyway.

Regular power windows are in danger of being banned anyway, as it's still possible to be hurt with them.


They are stock on many cars, express down is stock on Ford pickups. Express up is readily available on more than a dozen brands. But again, use your head. If you have small children, please don't use power windows. You might want to convert to standard, but then, there is a several dozen internet sites devoted to the danger of standard windows too. Seems some kids crank them up on other kids heads, also, if a child steps on the window crank, with head out the window, he can 'lever' his self to death.

And don't get me started on power seats. My wife crushed her old Nikon 4500, which had fallen behind the seat. She powered the driver seat back, and there is no safety stop on power seats. They can exert hundreds of pounds of force many times what a window can do. And there is no safety on them at all! Put something behind the seat in the regular cab, then power it back.

Crunch. A small child crawling behind the seat, and you power it back and you could kill the child.
Cell phones, monitors in the dash, power mods, raising the truck, etc, all are far more dangerous than power window mods.

Etc. Etc.

 

Hi redelsinore 92-94 Sables and Taurus are very common, so even though they used the modules up to present, I usually just get them from the Sables,etc. This is the black module. the Red and Blue modules are used in newer trucks. The schmatic is the same though, same part number too.

If you want to aquire one you open the door on the Taurus etc. and using a philips screwdrive to remove the two screws that hold the door panel. If there are more than two screws, it's not the rigth model.

Pull the door panel away from the body, Strong figers, or a large screwdriver here.
The module is mounted behind the armrest. Holding the panel with one hand, unhook the module, and Clip the wires about six -eight inches from the module.

It takes about 2-5 minutes to pull one. Sometimes they are already exposed, and you can just clip them. Easy to test, clean and wire. In 9 of them, I found one with a damaged capacitor. It cost a minute to resolder that, and it's working fine.
This is a cheap easy way to add express to the passenger window.

Every car I have owned in a lot of years had express down on the drivers window. So I missed it on this truck. Since it was so easy/cheap I put four modules in my truck, so it's express up and down. Now that I am spoiled by it, I hate using other power windows.
These trucks have such a long window throw that the express makes more difference on it, than it did on the Caddys and other cars I am used to.
Chris

 

Scott 7065, um, most of the people complaining, want power windows banned completely. Nothing to do with express.

Follow the names of the posters and you will see they also want trucks, SUV's etc. banned. This is political.

The two cases I was able to find in the last ten years where a small child was hurt both had the same facts. The mother's boyfriend (funny that expression almost always comes up when a child is killed...) accidentally left the keys in the ignition, turned to accessory, and the child managed to stand on the switch in just the right way, and poke their head out the window, while raising the window, and being unable to get free they strangled. Horrible.

The police in both cases didn't believe a word of it.... But a new campaign is born.

Perhaps we shouldn't have cars, as they kill tens of thousands a year. They should be banned, along with guns, bathtubs and the other things that we shouldn't have.

Did you know that in your very house is 120 volts of unprotected current? A small child can be electrocuted in less than a second. Can you imagine what would happen if a toddler came in contact with that much power?

Got my right thumb caught in a car door the day Bobby Kennedy was killed, the nail never grew back straight. Many kids lose fingers in car doors. I think they should be banned..
If you have small kids who use your car, don’t use express up down, power anything. It is dangerous. Far too dangerous for children to use safely.

What kind of idiot gives a small kid the keys to their car?
Small kids start cars and drive them into stores about once a day.

Of course I am just ragging you.
Don’t do anything that is unsafe. Use your head.
Don’t be a safety ****. Think.
Chris

 

Hi countyboy04. Yep you could,
there are two considerations.
1. you would have to use very short runs of wiring, and use a heavy gauge, as each module adds a bit more resistance to the system, thus slowing the motor slightly, and putting more load on it. Soldering would be a must.
One module is not much increase, but two modules and a remote modules, starts to add up.

2. If you had express up and express down, and remote up and remote down, I think you would be close to the amount of resistance permisiable. Simply put, the system might run for a second, detect the increased resistance, and shut off.

I think express down and remote up might be a sweet spot.
I use express up and down, but don't need remote up as before shutting off the key I can just 'flash' the two windows up.

Hope this is some help.
Chris