Who isn't lifted and why?
Who isn't lifted and why?
Well my buddy keeps giving me a hard time for not lifting my 05 Screw. I kept saying that I was going to lift right away but I haven't made any effort yet. It's only been 3 weeks though. I just like the idea of not messing with it. I do think they look better but I feel the risks of warranty loss fuel mileage loss isn't worth the better looks. I will be tinting it hella dark once it's registered and maybe doing the billet grille in another couple months but that's about it.
Who else is stock suspension and would you do a lift if money wasn't an issue?
Who else is stock suspension and would you do a lift if money wasn't an issue?
if money wasn't an issue I would have gotten a luxury sports car and wouldn't have to worry about warranty issues.
What kind of lift you talking about? 3", 6"? anything more than that is ugly IMO.
What kind of lift you talking about? 3", 6"? anything more than that is ugly IMO.
My truck is not lifted.
After loading our motorcycles into the back of a lifted f350 for the past few years - this 150 is not getting lifted - no way. Well I will be putting on a leveling kit - but that is it.
Kirk
After loading our motorcycles into the back of a lifted f350 for the past few years - this 150 is not getting lifted - no way. Well I will be putting on a leveling kit - but that is it.
Kirk
I might do the autospring thing, new 33" tires and rims, but that's about it and its for cosmetic purposes. Now I do see some on here with 35's and lifted, and they do look awesome, but I think the 33's look just as good as 35'sand is a hell of alot cheaper. To be honest, the F150 is just not a good offroad vehicle so why bother trying to make it one.
zman
zman
POSTED BY ZMANF150
the F150 is just not a good offroad vehicle so why bother trying to make it one.
i totally disagree with you there the F-150 is a awsome offraod vehicle and a great base to build an awsome offroad beast, just look in any offroad mag, i do not know were you get your info from but you are wrong
the F150 is just not a good offroad vehicle so why bother trying to make it one.
i totally disagree with you there the F-150 is a awsome offraod vehicle and a great base to build an awsome offroad beast, just look in any offroad mag, i do not know were you get your info from but you are wrong
Here comes trouble.
I have been reading the posts here and concerns elsewhere about the coilspring lift systems. I have come to the conclusion that I will not be using these cheaper kits for a couple reasons.
First, some of them are a week link, namely the spacer style. The spacers themselves become the weekest link. The other syle stresses, or pre-stresses the spring if you will. This adds duty beyond it's intended design. You lose a couple turns of the spring to space, and lose it's functionability.
Do they work? Yes. Will the average person have a failure? Probably not. However, it is really a cheap and dirty way to perform a lift. They are both designed for those who want an easy way to cheaply lift their truck a little. A poor analogy is to compare it to the way Chevy Truck owners will tweak their torsion bars. It's not exactly the same, but still.
A proper and stronger lift will extend most or all affected equipment so that original design tolerences are kept as close as possible, with the exception of the shafts used for driveline and steering. The companies that design what I call a true lift kit, like Skyjacker and alike companies, spend alot of time with their designs to make sure the parts keep linear and horizontal dimensions the same, and only changing the lengths of the suspension vertically.
The coil extension only lift style is also why some of you, who go 1/2" to much, are smacking coil springs with stearing components, and why your mechanics are throwing fits. Every tolerence dealing with the allignment has just been hosed. Yes, other lift kits require re-allignment, but it's much closer to stock dimensionally. Go look at a true, full suspension lift online somewhere, and see what all comes with them. You will understand what I'm trying to say.
The cheap kits do make the rigs look nice, and if you do nothing but highway/city driving, you'll probably be fine, but I wouldn't take them over many washboard roads, or offroading much. The design is not a good one for such driving. If you want a better explaination of this, go find your local honest off-road gearhead, and have him explain it in ways I can't write here.
First, some of them are a week link, namely the spacer style. The spacers themselves become the weekest link. The other syle stresses, or pre-stresses the spring if you will. This adds duty beyond it's intended design. You lose a couple turns of the spring to space, and lose it's functionability.
Do they work? Yes. Will the average person have a failure? Probably not. However, it is really a cheap and dirty way to perform a lift. They are both designed for those who want an easy way to cheaply lift their truck a little. A poor analogy is to compare it to the way Chevy Truck owners will tweak their torsion bars. It's not exactly the same, but still.
A proper and stronger lift will extend most or all affected equipment so that original design tolerences are kept as close as possible, with the exception of the shafts used for driveline and steering. The companies that design what I call a true lift kit, like Skyjacker and alike companies, spend alot of time with their designs to make sure the parts keep linear and horizontal dimensions the same, and only changing the lengths of the suspension vertically.
The coil extension only lift style is also why some of you, who go 1/2" to much, are smacking coil springs with stearing components, and why your mechanics are throwing fits. Every tolerence dealing with the allignment has just been hosed. Yes, other lift kits require re-allignment, but it's much closer to stock dimensionally. Go look at a true, full suspension lift online somewhere, and see what all comes with them. You will understand what I'm trying to say.
The cheap kits do make the rigs look nice, and if you do nothing but highway/city driving, you'll probably be fine, but I wouldn't take them over many washboard roads, or offroading much. The design is not a good one for such driving. If you want a better explaination of this, go find your local honest off-road gearhead, and have him explain it in ways I can't write here.
Last edited by 1969Mach; Dec 21, 2004 at 07:34 PM.
For forest service roads, sand and so forth its fine, but its ground clearance sucks and independent front suspention is not ideal for the harder trails. I got the FX4 for those few times I end up getting stuck such as when I pull my trailer on steep grades or driving in sand. I love the way it handles on the road, and that why I went with the F150 vs the 250 or 350.
IMHO the best stock form truck in the market for offroad is the Dodge Power Wagon. It has better ground clearance, front solid axel, disconnect sway bar, and to finish it off front and rear lockers.
Don't get me wrong, I still love my F150. I have no regrets buying it.
zman
IMHO the best stock form truck in the market for offroad is the Dodge Power Wagon. It has better ground clearance, front solid axel, disconnect sway bar, and to finish it off front and rear lockers.
Don't get me wrong, I still love my F150. I have no regrets buying it.
zman
Last edited by ZMANF150; Dec 21, 2004 at 07:37 PM.
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Re: Here comes trouble.
The 2” lift from the Autospring and similar kits don’t change anything for the worst. The alignment is barely out after the install; such a slight difference in factory specs can’t cause a problem. As for being a weak link, no way.
Last edited by jpdadeo; Dec 21, 2004 at 07:47 PM.
Originally posted by bigtruck311
just look in any offroad mag, i do not know were you get your info from but you are wrong [/B]
just look in any offroad mag, i do not know were you get your info from but you are wrong [/B]
and a video for ya
Now I know its comparing apples to oranges, but I do know a few things about 4 wheeling, I personally did everymod to my jeep, which by the way has a Ford Explorer 8.8 rear end in it.
zman
I love the look of a lifted truck, but for me its just not practical.
I drive about 36000 miles and up per year, buying new bigger tiers every year and a half is not my idea of fun. Not to mention that 3+ mpg hit is expensive when you drive as much as I do.
If I want a lifted 4x4 id go buy myself an old beater, something I could realy take off road
I drive about 36000 miles and up per year, buying new bigger tiers every year and a half is not my idea of fun. Not to mention that 3+ mpg hit is expensive when you drive as much as I do.
If I want a lifted 4x4 id go buy myself an old beater, something I could realy take off road
I leveled mine and added 33's
Looks better than stock......works better than 35's
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