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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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"rearend control" Screw better than scab in snow?

There have been discussed about add some sand bags on bed to help better control in rearend in snow...

I m curious, do you guys think Screw (w/ 3.73s and LS) has better control in snow than Scab due to center weight cuz of 4 doors and passenger doors is close to the rear wheels? or isnt does matter?

Its my first time pick up truck F150 Screw...and havent drive in snow yet but i drove in snow with my jeep Wrangler (heavy mods).

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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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I think the diff is so slim you'd never notice. Its kinda like tossing 200 lbs of sand in the back of your truck and thinking it does good...
 
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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I think that it has more to do with the tires you have, and your skill level at driving in snow. I have driven all types of trucks/cars in heavy snow, light snow, ice, etc... and it is tires and experience that make the most difference.

From what I've seen, if you have the stock BF's, you're in trouble, and if you have the stock Wranglers, you're ok. If you have aftermarkets, then you have the quality you bought. My SuperCrew with the Wranglers have been awesome in the snow, and no problems whatsoever.

I grew up in Denver when it still snowed there in September, and didn't melt till May, and I generally don't have any problems in any snow in any vehicle, because I learned what and what not to do.

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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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Re: "rearend control" Screw better than scab in snow?

Originally posted by YOMAN
There have been discussed about add some sand bags on bed to help better control in rearend in snow...

I m curious, do you guys think Screw (w/ 3.73s and LS) has better control in snow than Scab due to center weight cuz of 4 doors and passenger doors is close to the rear wheels? or isnt does matter?

Its my first time pick up truck F150 Screw...and havent drive in snow yet but i drove in snow with my jeep Wrangler (heavy mods).

Any feedback??

YOMAN!
YO,
I have had a couple suburbans and a tahoe in the past and they always did WAY better in the snow/ice than any pickup I have had during the same time (all brands pickups, tire/wheel combos)
due to that exact fact, the center of gravity and weight distribution they have is superior to an empty pickup box.
So I will assume a modest gain in the Screw vs Scab or reg cab.

Just my experience and .02 worth. FWIW :santa:
 

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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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It's all about traction. I have no problems with my Goodyears and we have over 3 feet of snow. Wieght really does help. 3 or 4 patio stones works great. When these tires are done I'm going to buy the BFG all terrain TA/KO. They are the best in snow! And not too bad on ice.

I do have the 3:73 LS but i don't think it makes much of a difference traction wise, a little bit but not much.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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In the winter, I get huge load of water softener salt (40lbs bags ) and leave them in the bed and use them throughout the year.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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interested... ok thanks..

I m waiting for my money tree to grow then i ll get AR rims with Nitto Terra grappler 295/70/17 !

I have 18" BFG goodrich that i dislike but i can wait and will extra careful drive with lousy tires ...

I m pretty well know about tires and am good quailty driver off roading (rockcrawling) but i still have to watch out for @$$ O driver who think they re super driver w/ SUV 4x4 geeeezzz

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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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Everybody is always complaining about the BF's and how they are horrible on snow and ice. Well perhaps compared to other tires they are horrible but overall i havent found them to be all that bad. If you drive reasonably then there is no reason you cant make it trough the winter safely with the BF's. And by the way, i live in winnipeg, so I drive on snow and ice as often as not.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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Driving in the snow and ice all my life. I'd wouldn't want a truck without the LS rear. I don't see why the crew cab wouldn't help alittle too, more weight over or closer to the rear wheels is always better. One thing I've found to be true no matter how the tires are or having a 4x4 or not. Slow down the on ice and drive careful. The tires can make a difference but helps the most is leaving yourself more room and time to stop.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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If you have the factory BFG's, the thing you have to watch out for is oversteering not rear end traction when in 4wd.

These tires don't have nearly the tread depth OR tread width to work effectively on snow or slush.

Take it out in an empty parking lot at 10-15 mph in snow or slush and turn and brake and you will see exactly what I mean. The tires suck, period.

You will also notice the ABS kicking in a lot sooner than expected with these tires on snow and ice, another indicator of poor ability to bite in ice and snow.

I had Michelin LTX AT's (siped) on my last two trucks and man do I miss those tires in the bad stuff (and everywhere else for that matter).

I figured I'd run the BFG's through a winter to see how they were, and they are definitely hitting the used tire rack next fall.

Thats 25 years of driving in adverse Colorado winters talking, FWIW.
 
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