paint/orange peel issue
Im in the need for some feedback. Just bought 2004 screw fx4 in true blue . there is a lot of orange peel on the truck especially on the sides of the bed i have called ford customer relations to find out where i could email some pics to but they refer me back to the dealer. i used to work in a body shop so i dont think im crazy but being the new owner mybe im biased. has anyone had the same problem with the paint or is it just the way fords paint jobs are. pics in my gallery
thanks all
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I know my truck has orange peel everywhere.

 

I would have never taken delivery of that truck..... That is completely unacceptable. Should have been noticed when the vehicle was checked in off the truck... Have you contacted the dealer? Was the vehicle purchased brand new? Sometimes when the vehicles are taken off the truck and have a small amount of damage, it is repaired before it makes it to the lot, and you as the consumer, never know about it. Something to check into.

 

it sounds like most of the 2004s have crappy, crappy paint.

orange peel, bubbles, runs...


I wonder if this affects all plants or maybe just MTP? I've not heard these complaints from the other plants on the previous model.

 

I would have never taken delivery of that truck.....

I Agree !!!

That is going to rust . I cant get over how bad the inside compartment is , There is hardly any paint on the inside of your fender..

 

Doesn't appear bad to me, but then again I prefer an orange peel paint texture. I know that for all of the european cars, the newer technology paints cure with some orange peel to it. Just go look at any new Mercedes or BMW, you'll see. Perhaps Ford is catching up to the newer technologies?

You can always have the paint polished to get a more mirror-like finish.

 

Orange peel is STANDARD EQUIPMENT on EVERY FoMoCo vehicle made.

There's no remedy. OP is caused by a poorly laid paint layer which is then coated with clear coat (aka: clear paint). The only way to make it go away is to totally strip the vehicle of paint and relay the entire paint process.

Learn to live with it. OP is going to come standard on EVERY Ford truck. Trust me.

RP

 

rockpick
I agree with you that most oem paint jobs have a certain amount of peel but nowadays with automated base coat clear coat applications there should be a much better quality of finish. you dont see this in most of the foreign car mfgs. now the question is how thick the clearcoat is because the only way to fix the problem is to wet sand and wheel out the truck which i feel is at least what ford should offer to do.

 

My truck shines like a piece of glass!!!

 

My truck looks good. No orange peel, that I have found as least. By the way F150's are not built at MTP (Michigan Truck Plant) they are built at Norfolk, Kansas City and Dearborn Assy.

 

I agree. No arguements on the automated processes.

Unfortunately, I don't think wet sanding is going to work. You see, wet sanding deals with the surficial clear coating and doesn't go down to the base coat (the color). Thus, you're going to have to totally remove the clear coat and then sand the color coat to remedy the problem. You'd have to remove far too much clear to get to the color and thus, will abnormally thin the clear in places and have odd thicknesses in others.

I'm no paint and body guy (more of a wax/polish/detailing guru) but, that's what I've been told about OP...

RP

 

100% agree thats unacceptable i have Zero blemishes and if i did or if thats the way a ford is ..deal with it.. there wouldn't be a ford in my lane period

 

Looking past the orange peel. what 's with the unpainted fender well and fire wall/side of hood ??? I looked at my truck and it's painted where his is looking like Earl shibe did this job

And As far as the OP goes, My truck does not have that eather ??





This is just not acceptable ,,, "Look at the paint line"


I would seriously be asking WHY ?

 

paint and body guy but I have painted 3 cars within the last year:
a 1977 Vette, a 1973 Vette and a 1965 Mustang. I used Base Coat Clear Coat.

First of all you never sand the base/color coat. It would show every mark once you applied the clear. Clear is sprayed directly over the base coat after it dries. At least that's how I was taught to do it. The base coat is almost like damp powder when you apply it. Dries very quickly and is very dull. The clear makes it shiny.

Secondly the orange peel is in your clear coat. Orange peel is a result of the clear coat drying from outside. That causes minor imperfections in your finish. Wet sanding will "fix" the orange peel
if done correctly. I haven't seen to many domestic cars that didn't have orange peel. I was looking at a new 2005 Vette and it had it. Some are better than others but if you look hard enough it's there. Essentially orange peel can't be avoided. Just a by product of the process. Even single stage paint produces orange peel.

All of our trucks would look better if they were wet sanded. It takes all the imperfections out of the surface. My friend and I took a 1994 Mustang with a weathered paint job and wet sanded it with 1500 grit paper using lots of water and buffed with
3 different buffing compounds and pads to produce a better finish than when new. The only flaws in the paint that the sanding and buffing didn't remove were the usual chips and stuff from a car with a 100k miles on it. The color sanding took out all the stains and such and looks better than it did when it was new - almost.

As far as poolguys truck goes wet sanding will help the orange peel. Don't know how much. Hard to tell from the pictures. The other problems result from lack of coverage. Some of those places just didn't get enough color or clear.

I am surprised that truck made it through quality control....

 

My truck also suffers from orange peel everywhere. However, I don't agree that all Fords come this way. I had a 2001 and a 2002 Sport Trac and neither of them had it at all. It's pretty sad that a $40k has paint this bad. I also have dirt under the clearcoat and a few other imperfections.