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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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Airraid & check engine light

Recently my check engine indicator light illuminated with a left bank lean dtc 4k miles after installation. I checked the installtion and cleared the dtc after a call to Airraid.
The indicator light has again illuminated after 1k miles.
In my call today to Airraid they advised this is seen in < 5% of the new trucks and will be remedied with newly designed intake tube. If you call Airraid they will put you on the list for a replacement tube which is scheduled to be available in November.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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My light just recently started coming on after having the intake on for 800mi. The first time it came on, I cleared it (batt disconnect). Then it took a couple of weeks to come on again. I don't know what error it is.

Now it is coming on within a couple of minutes of starting every time I clear it.
But yesterday when it was on, I floored it in 1st gear, and right before shifting, the engine pinged pretty good. Sounded like the drivers side also.

I wonder why it took so long for it to come on the first time, and the interval between in coming on getting shorter and shorter.

I just hope that it didn't damage something.

After work I am going to go by Autozone (read last night that they will scan it for free) and see what the error is.

Then call Airaid.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by HATECHEVYS
After work I am going to go by Autozone (read last night that they will scan it for free) and see what the error is.

Then call Airaid.
Autozone does scan for free, but most/all likely don't have CAN enabled diagnostic readers. It's worth a trip to find out though.

Good luck to both of you in getting your problems resolved. I haven't seen anything but positive posts about the Airraids for a while...now this makes me wonder, especially if they ae redesigning the intake tube...
 
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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Actually the code I am getting is P0171 Sys too lean (bank1).

I have the tuner and have noticed some strange shifts under wot just after I reprogram.

Once the pcm has had some time to learn it seems to remedy itself so I am careful not to try wot right after I reprogram.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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I just called Airaid and they told me to put the stock one back on, and when the new one is done being tested they will send one to me. Oh well.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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Did you use the stock MAS screws or the ones that came with the AIRAID packaging. Using the stock MAS screws pushes the MAS to far in and your light will come on at some point. The instructions with the kit do not tell you this really clearly just thought I might throw that at you to give you a hand if that was the problem.

AIRAID will send you the correct MAS screws if you dont have them they are shorter then the ones that come out of the stock air system.

I have had my AIRAID system on for about 1700 miles now and no problems really to this point.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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Uh, you guys are running a LEAN condition in your truck. For the love of pete PUT THE STOCK INTAKE BACK ON!!!! At least until you take it to a dyno and check your A/F. I had an '03 Cobra and trust me you DO NOT want to pay for a rebuild on one of these mod motors - especially if you munch the head which is aluminum and will melt. Ford will fight you to the death on a warranty claim as huge as that. It isn't worth it for 15 extra HP on a 6500lb. truck. The design of the intake tube is essential being the mass air meter is built into it.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 02:35 AM
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I thought air raid was the only one who said you would not get a lean burn. Glad i waited on this one for a bit. That's why i put a post onreliability of the volant and only a couple answered back so far.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 06:56 AM
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Looks like there isn't a safe air intake system out there yet, other than stock. I have been wanting to buy the AF1, which is still under development and I have heard the Airaid was safe. I am glad now that I waited. It is not worth trying to explain to the Ford Warrenty Dept. why the motor is cooked. I never thought when I purchased this truck that I would have the issues with aftermarket parts that seem to be happening with this truck and motor. I was always able to purchase aftermarket parts fairly soon after release of the new vehicles and didn't have issues related to them i.e. 86 Ford F150, 93 Ford F250, 99 Ford 350 Super Duty. I think as I go along here, (owned this truck since 9/03) I'm not happy in the fact that I cant just make changes like I used to be able to without problem or issues showing up on my truck or on others that I read here and makes me wonder about future mods. Thus far the addition of an aftermarket Flowmaster exhaust and the 1714 tuner has not given me any error codes (yet). Don't take me wrong here I think it is still a good truck, however it doesn't seem to me to be as easy as it used to be to squeeze extra HP without problems, issues, warrenty etc coming into play. Just my opinion..
 
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 08:07 AM
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It just makes me laugh how so many people, off of one or two opinions, will decide not to buy something. My truck runs absolutely fine with the Airaid on it. If it runs lean, and throws a code, I'll put the stock one back on and wait for a new intake tube to come out, which Airaid should then send. No big deal. Just buy the thing, it is worth it in my opinion. The key is mounting the thing correctly. If you dont, that is when you have your problems.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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I'll wait a little longer just to be sure. I would rather be safe than sorry later. Each and every one of us should and does have the opportunity to make your own choice, I thought that was the point of a open discussion on this board. I think if you read back a few posts you will find it is more than one or two people who have had issues with the Airaid and other Air intake systems. I don't believe I told anyone not to buy anything, unless you read something there I didn't write. I am glad that I was able to make you laugh as you indicated. I really didn't think it was that funny of a subject however...
 

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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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That's what i like about this forum free and true info. ( Well Some What True) If a product has trouble i'm glad some one posted it. Maybe it's work's fine on one engine and not another, small variance's ?? I to want a cold air intake, leaning to a Volant though and asked in a new thread for true reliability. 60K plus member's and i only get a couple responces . HHHHmm. So free info and im glad it's working on some . I don't want to be part of R & D i'll wait till thay are all fixed if it's a couple years. Now if product manufacturer warranteed my engine, heck send me two please.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Roboots i know what your saying . This is alot of money to have to shelve in the garage if it doesn't work. Then purchase another one. I waited on the 1714 before investing in it.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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I would suggest talking to Airraid directly if you are having an issue. The redesign of the tube relocates the maf only. They do suggest taking off the system and will offer their Airraid Jr. system until the new tube is ready. In my discussions with them the reason they want you to replace is because you could receive other dtc's and would not know if they are related to other issues with you vehicle. Since I have the 1714 they said I can monitor any dtc's I receive in case it is another issue.
My truck was at the dealer yesterday getting new rotors installed and they checked the code. They said the system is not running lean and could not determine the reason, hence my call to Airraid.
My installation uses the correct maf screws and seats perfectly on the throttle body.
Like I said this is <5% of 2004 f150's that have this issue.
 
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