new F-150 - first thoughts and pic
#31
Well not way off I just re-did the math at 26gal. tank...
Maybe my tank is shutting off way early or something, I think next time, I am going to let go way empty, and cram as much as possible in it, just to see.
I am serious though, I am holding my original sticker in my hands, and it cleary says Fuel Capacity 23gal........ Weird
This is really mess'n with my head now.....
Maybe my tank is shutting off way early or something, I think next time, I am going to let go way empty, and cram as much as possible in it, just to see.
I am serious though, I am holding my original sticker in my hands, and it cleary says Fuel Capacity 23gal........ Weird
This is really mess'n with my head now.....
#32
The size of your tank doesn't matter. Calculate your mileage by filling up and resetting your trip odometer. After your trip, fill up again and see how many gallons it took. Divide miles/gallons and you get mileage. Average it over 3 tanks and you'll have a good idea of what your mileage really is. Filling it up and running the tank down until it's "empty" is not accurate.
#33
Yes, I understand that is the accurate way. I was not so concerned with it, so I was only try'n to get a ball park, and actually, was more interested in total cruising range per tank than actual mile-age.
But you bet your bottom dollar now, I am going to do some real tracking on this. I'm actually sort of pissy now, thinking I should of gotten a 26 gal tank, and actually got a 23gal tank somehow instead.
No dang wonder the dealer had it priced so low.. lol
But you bet your bottom dollar now, I am going to do some real tracking on this. I'm actually sort of pissy now, thinking I should of gotten a 26 gal tank, and actually got a 23gal tank somehow instead.
No dang wonder the dealer had it priced so low.. lol
#34
13.22 mpg for the first tank.
That's doing an 80/day highway commute that is 70% 70-80 mph and 30% 55-65 mph. Almost no city.
This should be the lightest most fuel-efficient 4x4 F150 you can get - how can they advertise an 18mpg figure??!!!
John,
The warning light goes on and the fuel gauge shows empty at around 22 gallons - which probably explains the confusion.
BTW, I find it a great nuissance that the odometer is blanked out for a "low fuel" message!
That's doing an 80/day highway commute that is 70% 70-80 mph and 30% 55-65 mph. Almost no city.
This should be the lightest most fuel-efficient 4x4 F150 you can get - how can they advertise an 18mpg figure??!!!
John,
The warning light goes on and the fuel gauge shows empty at around 22 gallons - which probably explains the confusion.
BTW, I find it a great nuissance that the odometer is blanked out for a "low fuel" message!
#35
John
Ask for something for free from your dealer. If they messed up they have to make it right. Get a bedrug or something
Agent
Why do you say it should be the lightest and most fuel efficient F150 ever? It's actually the heaviest F150 ever which is clearly indicated on every spec sheet you look at. It's also a bigger engine = poor gas mileage. If you sold a Ranger and bought a full size expecting to get better mileage, you made a mistake. Also, if you press the button on the computer, it clears the low fuel message and displays the odometer.
Ask for something for free from your dealer. If they messed up they have to make it right. Get a bedrug or something
Agent
Why do you say it should be the lightest and most fuel efficient F150 ever? It's actually the heaviest F150 ever which is clearly indicated on every spec sheet you look at. It's also a bigger engine = poor gas mileage. If you sold a Ranger and bought a full size expecting to get better mileage, you made a mistake. Also, if you press the button on the computer, it clears the low fuel message and displays the odometer.
#37
13.22 mpg for the first tank.
That doesn't sound right. I'm getting that with a Screw 4x4 and almost no highway runs. The truck sees nothing but short trips (10 miles one way is a long one) and it's nothing but hills here. On flat ground it should be over 18 mpg with little effort.
Admittedly, I'm not pulling out a calculator with each fuel stop and just going by the computer, but I do reset the trip odometer each time and compare that with the fuel it takes. The results are close enough.
It will get better once it's broken in. Originally I was getting around 10.8 mpg.
That doesn't sound right. I'm getting that with a Screw 4x4 and almost no highway runs. The truck sees nothing but short trips (10 miles one way is a long one) and it's nothing but hills here. On flat ground it should be over 18 mpg with little effort.
Admittedly, I'm not pulling out a calculator with each fuel stop and just going by the computer, but I do reset the trip odometer each time and compare that with the fuel it takes. The results are close enough.
It will get better once it's broken in. Originally I was getting around 10.8 mpg.
#38
Originally posted by TruBluScru
[B]John
Agent
Why do you say it should be the lightest and most fuel efficient F150 ever?
[B]John
Agent
Why do you say it should be the lightest and most fuel efficient F150 ever?
#39
Originally posted by SlapPaddle
Is it just me? I'm not buying into any of Agent86's stuff. Could it be...
Is it just me? I'm not buying into any of Agent86's stuff. Could it be...
I'm actually an executive for Toyota and purchased a brand new F150 just so I could complain about the poor fuel efficiency. I have no interest at all in giving an objective review and now that I'm found out I will make naiive posts about the actual 30 mpg I get while under full acceleration so that I can fit in with the "Ford Can Do No Wrong" Club.
#40
Originally posted by KJB
It will get better once it's broken in. Originally I was getting around 10.8 mpg. [/B]
It will get better once it's broken in. Originally I was getting around 10.8 mpg. [/B]
I didn't expect stellar fuel efficiency when I bought this truck, but I atleast expected 15 driving as conservatively as I do.
I'm going to experiment with different speeds on the highway per tankfull and see how it affects my mileage.
This summer I can atleast drive my Mustang. It gets about 18mpg. I know it sounds knit-picky, but you guys have to realize that at 500 miles/week every little bit counts...
#41
Originally posted by Agent86
I hope you're right....especially with gas prices knocking on $2.00/gallon here!
I didn't expect stellar fuel efficiency when I bought this truck, but I atleast expected 15 driving as conservatively as I do.
I'm going to experiment with different speeds on the highway per tankfull and see how it affects my mileage.
This summer I can atleast drive my Mustang. It gets about 18mpg. I know it sounds knit-picky, but you guys have to realize that at 500 miles/week every little bit counts...
I hope you're right....especially with gas prices knocking on $2.00/gallon here!
I didn't expect stellar fuel efficiency when I bought this truck, but I atleast expected 15 driving as conservatively as I do.
I'm going to experiment with different speeds on the highway per tankfull and see how it affects my mileage.
This summer I can atleast drive my Mustang. It gets about 18mpg. I know it sounds knit-picky, but you guys have to realize that at 500 miles/week every little bit counts...
I think most of us do understand. I'm always trying to see how I can squeeze a little better mpg out of my truck. I think you're on the right track by experimenting at diferent speeds. I've found that if I keep it at 70 or below I do as much as 2 mpg better than at above 70...the problem is I usually want to go as fast as I think I can getr away with . I'm also tracking my mileage by fillup, because it seems that some brands of gas are doing a little better than others...not a big difference, but a little. As KJB said, I suspect (and hope) that you're mileage will improve as the truck gets broken in.
At the end of the day, though, if I ask myself whether I would be upset if I got 2 mpg less, the answer is no. BUT, I also don't have the daily commute that you do.
Good luck,
John
#44
Quick math fix...
Agent said he drove 500 miles/ week = 2,000 miles/ month
Agent claimed gas prices in the neighborhood of $2/ gallon
SO.....
@12 mpg = 166 gal per month (@$2.00/ gal)=$332 a month for fuel
@15 mpg = 133 gal/mo = $266/mo
So the difference per month between 12 and 15 mpg is actually more like $66, not $30, and either way it comes out to more than 50% as much as his truck payments... being that he was told he'd be getting better gas mileage now than he was in his Ranger, yea I'd be upset too...
Agent claimed gas prices in the neighborhood of $2/ gallon
SO.....
@12 mpg = 166 gal per month (@$2.00/ gal)=$332 a month for fuel
@15 mpg = 133 gal/mo = $266/mo
So the difference per month between 12 and 15 mpg is actually more like $66, not $30, and either way it comes out to more than 50% as much as his truck payments... being that he was told he'd be getting better gas mileage now than he was in his Ranger, yea I'd be upset too...
#45
Re: By request, copy and paste...
Originally posted by SlapPaddle
MPG - Let's do the math
You bought a full sized truck, that works like a full sized truck is supposed to, but with the finest ride in truck history. You spent $28K-38K, with payments of, say $400-$600 per month, or more.
1500 miles per month=18,000 per year.
@12 mpg = 125 gal per month (@$1.50/ gal - nice round #)=$187 a month for fuel
@15 mpg = 100 gal/mo = $150/mo
@18 mpg = 83 gal/mo = $125/mo
You're paying $500/mo for a truck, and a $30 difference in fuel costs is of concern for you?
Comparing mileage is interesting, but expecting fuel "economy" out of a full sized truck is beyond me!
Give me torque, horsepower, style, and class (in that order). Thats why I bought my truck!
[MPG is why my wife drives a Focus @ 25,000 miles per year, and why my daughter drives her Mustang... naaahh, she doesn't care about fuel economy either!]
MPG - Let's do the math
You bought a full sized truck, that works like a full sized truck is supposed to, but with the finest ride in truck history. You spent $28K-38K, with payments of, say $400-$600 per month, or more.
1500 miles per month=18,000 per year.
@12 mpg = 125 gal per month (@$1.50/ gal - nice round #)=$187 a month for fuel
@15 mpg = 100 gal/mo = $150/mo
@18 mpg = 83 gal/mo = $125/mo
You're paying $500/mo for a truck, and a $30 difference in fuel costs is of concern for you?
Comparing mileage is interesting, but expecting fuel "economy" out of a full sized truck is beyond me!
Give me torque, horsepower, style, and class (in that order). Thats why I bought my truck!
[MPG is why my wife drives a Focus @ 25,000 miles per year, and why my daughter drives her Mustang... naaahh, she doesn't care about fuel economy either!]
You guys will have to show me where the money tree is sometime.
Anyway, I drive about 600 miles per week, and gas here is $1.75/gallon. Since you trying to get so scientific, lets use real numbers:
@13.33mpg (actual) = 45.11 gal/week (@1.75/gal) = $78.92/week
@18mpg (advertised) = 33.33 gal/week (@1.75/gal) = $58.33/week
$20.59/week x 52 weeks = $1,070.68/year delta between advertised and actual.
Yeah, I would say that's worth noting.
If you guys can afford to throw money away or don't care about whether or not your truck meets the advertised fuel efficiency, that's cool - don't knock me for being a little smarter with my money though.
Last edited by Agent86; 03-24-2004 at 10:08 AM.