Have you been reading some of the post's on this site recently? What has happened, all I see now is items like: My washer fluid is slow as opposed to the speed of the wipers when I turn it on , Does this 2003 exhust tip fit my 2004 truck, My black truck is getting dirty-why, I heard a squeak oh my god, etc... etc....etc... It seem's to be a collection of posts for the most trival items I've ever seen. There used to genuine issues on this site, not any more. I know this will not exactly make people happy, however I just had to say something. Go ahead and tell me I'm wrong...

 

Well first off, we are very happy that most of you got a "perfect" truck, but have a little sympathy for those of us that paid $38,000 for one that is far from it. Just because "your" truck is perfect, I guess everyone else's is too. Yes, I agree, there is alot of whining about small things but once you have a few major problems with your truck, it makes you aware of other things that are wrong with it, even if they are of the smallest magnitude. By the way, speaking of nit-picking, believe is spelled "believe", not beleive.

 

Hey man thanks for the spell check. Where in the post I made did you read that my truck was perfect? I never said that, you must have read something that wasn't there. As I thought would happen some people would read the post and get there feelings hurt, get over it. This is a new truck and there will be problems, but some of these post's are a joke. Think about it, without entering your emotions into it. It is not directed toward you, it was and is a general comment....

 

Fieldman, are sure about that?
I did a search on 'beleive' and there are 55 pages with 1371 topics.
Philosophically,
if everybody is wrong except you, are you still right?

 

Carpenter, I didn't mean you directly, it was a general comment and I'm sorry if you took it that way. Some people think they have the perfect truck and because their is perfect, they can't understand that some of them out there aren't. I'm not expecting perfect by any means but my truck has at least 16 problems with it. I will agree that some are nit-picky but there are at least 3 that are serious safety concerns. And hey, when you can't get any satisfaction from the service dept., I guess it makes people feel better to whine to others that are having the same concerns.

 

Come on, guys....

 

There's already been a few threads posted on this topic. Yes there has been alot of whining, I for one am sick of it. I have a big problem with my truck, but I haven't been here day and day out posting about it. I am just dealing with it, I'm already shopping for a new vehicle as we speak to replace my '04 as I'm so sick of the problems I've been having. This forum has gotten pretty boring lately. That's why I think traffic has been down.

 

If you sell your truck and buy another vehicle and it has problems what will you do then? I have never owned any vehicle in the past 35 years, that didn't have some kind of problems. If you sell your truck now do you understand you will lose about 15 - 25% of it's value just because it is now a used truck... Maybe you can take that kind of loss.

 

I am one of those **** people.

I had a 1989 f250 xlt LAR> Man I was so **** with this truck!!
It was back at ford for every little problem that that popped up.most of them were little. That realy never got resolved. they went away as my sound system got better. and they realy never botherd anybody but me. that s because i was looking for problems. they were all in my head.

When you spend alot of your hard earnd "alot" on something you want what you paid for. but thar' more to it than that.
I always said I would never sell my truck so I babied it always looked shiny I would not drive it if there was salt on the road. And if it got dirty I would bust my *** cleaning it I had people tell me I was going to wash the paint off of that truck. That never happened because I wax it ones a month and this truck was nice!! It was garaged kept. Yes this is a truck I’m talking about. Well yes I sold this truck after owning it for 9 years. And the person who bought got a real peach of a truck with low miles. I sold it because I was tired of looking at it and cleaning it and all the problems I was having were from letting it sit. In the beginning it was in my head that I paid alot for this truck. So I was compelled to keep it looking new. I though about the way I was with this truck and now it is clear that I lost out with this truck! “sure” I always looked good going down the street (when it was a nice day) but I rarely used it for what it was built for and when I should have been driving it I was driving a beater 2nd car. I did get a good buck for it when I sold it but not much more than a well used truck of the same type. (Am I Sick)
I guess what I’m saying is use your truck for what it is built for ”yes” Keep it clean but don’t get **** about it because a vehicle is only temporary and no matter what you will not get your money back Out of it.Wether you bye it or lease it drive it like your renting it.

 

Hi carpenter and Sithor,

Like most things, the "definition" of a "genuine issue" is subjective. I think that it's a generally good reflection on the overall quality of the F150 that the major issues aren't so prolific that they occupy all of our time in this forum. I think that there are two factors contributing to what you perceive as a lack of interesting posts:
1) The 2004 F150 isn't as "new" and exciting as it was a few months ago. Before, there was a whole bunch of "new" and worthwhile information to share...now most of us have already gone over that learning curve and there are few significant mysteries to unravel.
2) Many of us are waiting out what seems to be the longest winter ever, and instead of spending time out of doors or playing with our trucks are left to spend time talking about them here. As this is a socially oriented forum, I'd rather see "boring" posts than no posts at all.

People come here generally to learn, and share with others. The threads have always run the gamut from sharing pics, discussing mechanical problems, cosmetic problems, or just venting about something bothersome.
If you find yourself growing weary of the posts here, take a break, or spend some time checking out the other forums at this site. (They are no more or less "genuine".)

In my opinion, threads that "complain" about how other threads are "trivial" are ironic in themselves and don't add value.
Neither is it helpful when someone disagrees with a post and resorts to pointing out spelling errors as a counter reply. Most of us make them...they don't make our messages less legitimate. As Raoul pointed out, if we took away all of the posts with spelling errors, most of the site would be wiped out...

Respectfully,

(edited for spelling )

 

I think we've had as many threads of people complaining about people complaining as we do with the people complaining. Good grief...give it a rest. For example, that guy that posted about the wipers not spraying to sufficiently cover the windshield at highway speeds really got ripped a new one by some people on here. Personally, I think he has a point...they are there for a reason and they should do their job. But anyway, my point is, if you think someone is being unreasonable, laugh it off and forget about it...no need to publically insult them. I think people are smart enough to know when someone is being unreasonable and the reputation of the truck won't be damaged by people that think they're leather seats are wearing out too quick...don't worry about it. On the other hand, if someone is complaining about something, have you stopped to think that maybe this person really is concerned about something and is just looking for a little support and ideas to address their concern? I sometimes get the impression that some of the people complaining about complainers are the 'Ford Rules!' type of people. Much like the 'Chevy Rules' type of people. The people that think one manufacturer is God and all the other products out there are pure garbage, so their response to someone with a concern about their $35,000 truck is "shut the hell up!" Personally, I'm inclined to ignore the bed shake issue unless my tailgate flies off and kills someone on the highway...or unless it shakes me in my seat and bugs the crap out of me, but maybe someone else thinks it's really a problem? Maybe it is, I don't know. But I'm not about to tell someone they have no right to complain about it. There are some complaints that so crazy that they don't need a response...and I think we're smart enough to figure out what those are. So why not let someone vent a little and maybe someone on here will actually find a solution to that person's problem? (especially when several people have complained about the very same issue...maybe there's something to it) What's the harm?

 

I guess I'm going to get flamed but I'm ticked. Picked up my black Lariet last night at 5:12, I've got 127 miles on it and it's dirty, dirt sand salt sprayroad grime, you name it it's on there.
My salesman called this morning to see how I liked the the truck and I had to let him know how I felt. 35,000 for a truck and filthy in less than 16 hours, I expected it to be cleaned under warranty, after he lipped me off and hung up I checked my sales catalog and EVERY truck in there is spotless!! There is one blue FX4 that has dirt flying around but not sticking to the truck.
why, force field or trick photography, I started asking some questions and find out some interesting information.
My mailman's uncle has a stepbrother on his mothers side who's son-in-law works for a cleaning service at ford's "AREA 51" if you get my driff "wink wink" He claims LOTS of empty barrels of slick 50, apparently they rub the slick 50 with teflon on the trucks and the dirt will not stick. Great idea or what!!!
So there, if noone would have complained about dirty trucks you wouldn't know any of this.

Apology accepted

Please don't really try this

 

This is a good thing. Would you rather see more posts on engines blowing and trannies failing?

Hey, the more trivial the issues, the deeper we have to dig to find issues which translates into better quality.

Ever been to a Dodge site where they bitch about serious mechanical failure? They wish they had the problems of an F150.

 

Don't even get me started on the dirt thing.

I've had to vacuum my floor mats twice now because the drivers side keeps picking up little rocks and dirt.

What was Ford thinking?

 

Once the "2004" forum gets broken up, like it is for the '97-'03 model, there will probably be less "griping". In other words, you might have an '04 but don't really care to hear about bad seats. Well, later on that will be in the interior forum, so you won't have to read about it. I agree with the complainers, though... I'd hate to drop so much $ and for it to not be perfect so early on...