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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 04:57 PM
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Catylst and evap systems not ready

Catalyst and Evap systems not ready. I am tryin to get my truck to pass emissions in Utah. I have already driven it over 1500 miles trying to get the systems ready and I have also taken it to a ford dealership and had my pcm updated and more drive cycles completed by then to no avail. Do I just need to replace those two systems and see if they run or is there anything I can do to get them ready. The ford dealership wasn’t much help because they did the drive cycles and update but they said they couldn’t figure it out and gave up basically, I now have an exemption tag for this year but it is only for once in the lifetime of the vehicle.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 06:54 PM
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What is this vehicle?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 07:22 PM
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Last year I had a similar issue with my 99' Mustang in the ROC. I ran with the mufflers off and the catalyst and EVAP woke up...I ended up running glass packs for mufflers during my test and it passed. The original mufflers were old and restrictive.
I used Forscan to read the info while driving around.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 08:15 PM
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Sorry it’s a 2001 Ford F-150 with the triton v8 5.4L
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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 09:06 PM
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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 09:25 PM
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The EVAP system has no relationship to exhaust. …. Unless something was disturbed back at the tank area, by coincidence while working on exhaust hardware. The test and control wiring is in a harness with Ox sensors and transmission control.
The EVAP testing is solely the fuel tank hardware, solenoids, sensors, hoses charcoal filter and fuel cap seal.
What the PCM does is a [4 phase] complex set tests that often fails attempts to clear by drive cycles 'unless' a range of actions are performed and time limits observed. Normally a tight system will clear by itself unless something is marginal.
Vacuum is applied to measure leak rates at two levels, solenoid operations, pressure tests etc.
The length of time depends on the drive cycles you happen to do each time you drive the vehicle..
Do not power down or try a code clear because it starts the test all over again from scratch each time..
Your state should excuse this incomplete test at the time of inspection due to the age of the vehicle.
Ask them and tell them what attempts were made to clear the 'non-complete test'.
It's not a failure until the computer completes to a [detected fault], that sets a code.
If they don't, you have to do what you will by guessing, because there is no code set to offer a clue to the specific failure.
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 12:43 AM
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The CAT tests are done 2 times each drive cycle to be sure the DPFE lines are clear of frozen moisture after the engine bay has heated up.
The CATS are monitored by the Rear Ox sensors for activity within limits of time and ratio to the front sensors.
This is totally separate from the Evap system.
The only place the systems come close is in the wire harness and physical location to each other. Even then the EVAP system is back on the rear cross member and on the top of the fuel tank.
This keep separation from hot exhaust for obvious reasons.
If there is no codes other than the P1000, there has been no faults detected.
The P1000 code indicated all the self tests have not completed. It's not a trouble code unto itself..
 
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 08:46 AM
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OP, I would put the mufflers back on and return the exhaust to original factory configuration. Changing the back pressure in the exhaust system could be upsetting the O2 sensors which could then be reported as a catalyst system not ready. If you've tampered with the EGR system then if may need to be replaced as well.

GLC and Bleugrass, could step 7 of the drive cycle (GLC's link) be causing the system to throw the catalyst system not ready code?

FWIW the old (non-Ford) car that I used to have required four successful drive cycles to clear the code. But it looks like the Fords only require two.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 09:48 AM
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Catalyst and Evap systems not ready. I am tryin to get my truck to pass emissions in Utah. I have already driven it over 1500 miles trying to get the systems ready and I have also taken it to a ford dealership and had my pcm updated and more drive cycles completed by then to no avail. Do I just need to replace those two systems and see if they run or is there anything I can do to get them ready. The ford dealership wasn’t much help because they did the drive cycles and update but they said they couldn’t figure it out and gave up basically, I now have an exemption tag for this year but it is only for once in the lifetime of the vehicle.
Are you running with a 1/2 full gas tank? Full or nearly empty will prevent the EVAP test.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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the ford dealership did everything by the book, apparently, and did multiple drive cycles in the way that it is supposed to be done. Me personally doing the drive cycles before them I did have at least 1/2 to 3/4 a tank of gas the entire time I drove, which added up to over 1000 miles.
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Are you running with a 1/2 full gas tank? Full or nearly empty will prevent the EVAP test.
 
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