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Where to Cut Hole in Bed for Fuel Pump?

Old Oct 29, 2016 | 12:37 PM
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Where to Cut Hole in Bed for Fuel Pump?

Hi. I've got a 2001 Supercrew 5.4L w/170k miles I picked up just a couple of months ago that I've begun to call my little money pit because it has one problem after another. I got a good deal on it but I'm finding out it wasn't such a good deal after all.

Anyway the latest problem is no fuel to the fuel rails. I replaced the fuel pump relay and the PCM relay (both are the same type) and it started right up several times while I moved it around for various projects I'm doing like painting the hood and top and tinting the two front windows. The last time I moved it the same thing happened. It spins over (has a new battery) but no joy and no fuel as I found out by depressing the schrader valve on the fuel rail and barely getting a drop out of it. I cycled the key several times one time and the starter kicked out like it was going to start and nothing happened. I also sprayed some starter fluid down the intake with no joy there either.

So that brings me to the fuel pump. The tank is full (of course) and the truck is parked a few inches from the side of my garage on the drivers side (of course) so my plan is to take the plastic bed liner off then cut with a die grinder and wheel, a square hole to access the fuel pump and pull it out.

The info I'm looking for is the exact measurements from the side and front of the bed to cut on all sides of the hole. I will probably leave the side of the hole closest to the side of the bed intact and just bend up the sheet metal then either tack weld it back in place or use some strapping to bolt it down.

Sorry for the long explanation but does anyone have those measurements?

By the way; here are some before and current pics of this work in progress.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 04:12 PM
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Really? No one here has done this? Here is a screen shot with the bed off (not mine). It's just a matter of knowing where to cut and of course be careful.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 04:33 PM
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I think most guys either drop the tank or remove the bed. Isn't there a fuel switch behind the passenger side kick plate? Have you checked that?
 
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 05:09 PM
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I was just reading and watching a video about that. The inertia switch I think its called. I'll definitely be checking that. I don't have a lot of room to work with where the truck is crammed into right now but maybe I can pull it out a little with another vehicle. I'm thinking I might try unbolting the bed and sliding it back a little ways but I'm by myself so I don't know how doable that might be. The sides are fiberglass so it's just the metal inner liner that has any real weight to it. Maybe I can just tilt up the front of the bed enough where I can see where to measure and cut the bed so next time I need to do anything with the fuel pump, even just to check it, it will be super easy. I'm mildly surprised there isn't an access hatch already built into the bed for the fuel pump.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 06:08 PM
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The inertia switch is okay. In looking at the area to cut; I can see where to fairly easily. Easier than I thought it would be and there's plenty of room between the bed and the pump and tank. Since no one else has documented how to do this and how common changing the fuel pump is on the 10th gen F150's; I will go ahead and document it with pictures and measurements for anyone who wants to do it the easy way next time and every time thereafter. Since I have a plastic bedliner that will go back in and I have a flux core welder; I'll just tack weld the plate down and seal it with silicone so next time it's a matter of cutting the tack welds and removing the silicone.

Someone could make good money making a kit to do this though. Someone with either an engineering mind or just good old fashioned redneck sense. I'll be back when I'm done to post the pics and info.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 10:45 PM
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I don't own a supercrew but I'm pretty sure the fuel pump is in the part of the tank that is under the cab. so taking off the bed or cuttin a hole would be even it's a 15 year old truck, how many more fuel pumps do yo think it will need?
 

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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NetBob928
Maybe I can just tilt up the front of the bed enough where I can see where to measure and cut the bed so next time I need to do anything with the fuel pump, even just to check it, it will be super easy. I'm mildly surprised there isn't an access hatch already built into the bed for the fuel pump.
sounds like more work than it would be worth, how many more fuel pumps is your 15 year old truck going to need?
 

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Old Oct 29, 2016 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NetBob928

Someone could make good money making a kit to do this though. Someone with either an engineering mind or just good old fashioned redneck sense. I'll be back when I'm done to post the pics and info.
I don't think they'd make a dime, most people just take the 2 hours or less and change the pump the normal way.
it's actuallt a very simple and easy process.

in the 5.5 hours you spent posting on the internet you could have changed the pump at least twice!
 

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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 12:24 AM
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Screw you are forced to drop the tank
 
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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by guyina4x4
I don't own a supercrew but I'm pretty sure the fuel pump is in the part of the tank that is under the cab. so taking off the bed or cuttin a hole would be even more of a waste of time than it already is.
I can drop the tank and change the pump in less than 2 hours.
if the tank has much fuel in it just siphon it out and put it back in when your done.
just drop the tank, it's not hard to do, people make more work of avoiding it than it is to just do it.

as for changing it next time, it's a 15 year old truck, how many more fuel pumps do yo think it will need?
I don't bother debating people who know nothing about what they are talking about. It helps no one just like this post of yours.

I'll just let the pictures do the talking. Those who think there's only one way to do something are stuck into doing it that one way for life.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 02:25 PM
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Okay; here's what I found. Unfortunately our rude friend is right. The pump is under the back seat so this will not work on a Supercrew. I don't know if it will work on one of the other models or not. Lucky for me it's no big deal to weld up the hatch I cut and throw the liner back in.

I just find it amazing this wealth of knowledge here and no one has brought this up before.

Bottom line for those who come looking for info after me; the only option is to drop the tank because the pump is in front of the bed area under the cab. In my case this isn't doable so now I'll have to save up to have it towed to a shop to get it done where they have a way to save a full tank of gas so the tank can be lowered.

Thanks to those who did try to help without being rude about it.

And to answer the question about me working on trucks before; this is my 4th Ford truck. One other 2001 Supercrew, which is when I signed up for this forum, and two Ranger's before then going back to 1998. Plus I was a heavy equipment mechanic and operator long before then, so yeah, I've worked on things much bigger than a tiny pickup truck. You could put a hundred pickup trucks on some of the really big off shore equipment I've worked on.

PS: Don't be afraid to try something new; you might surprise yourself! Plus I still find it amazing Ford didn't put an access hatch in; particularly since it's under the cab. All the more reason to do so.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NetBob928
I don't bother debating people who know nothing about what they are talking about. It helps no one just like this post of yours.

I'll just let the pictures do the talking. Those who think there's only one way to do something are stuck into doing it that one way for life.
huh, no help?
 

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Old Oct 30, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NetBob928
Okay; here's what I found. Unfortunately our rude friend is right. The pump is under the back seat so this will not work on a Supercrew. I don't know if it will work on one of the other models or not. Lucky for me it's no big deal to weld up the hatch I cut and throw the liner back in.

I just find it amazing this wealth of knowledge here and no one has brought this up before.

Bottom line for those who come looking for info after me; the only option is to drop the tank because the pump is in front of the bed area under the cab. In my case this isn't doable so now I'll have to save up to have it towed to a shop to get it done where they have a way to save a full tank of gas so the tank can be lowered.

Thanks to those who did try to help without being rude about it.

And to answer the question about me working on trucks before; this is my 4th Ford truck. One other 2001 Supercrew, which is when I signed up for this forum, and two Ranger's before then going back to 1998. Plus I was a heavy equipment mechanic and operator long before then, so yeah, I've worked on things much bigger than a tiny pickup truck. You could put a hundred pickup trucks on some of the really big off shore equipment I've worked on.

PS: Don't be afraid to try something new; you might surprise yourself! Plus I still find it amazing Ford didn't put an access hatch in; particularly since it's under the cab. All the more reason to do so.

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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 02:39 PM
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I removed my bed on my 2001 F-150 reg cab to replace the fuel pump. I too had a full fuel tank when my pump quit. Was just easier to unbolt 8 bed bolts, unplug the taillight wire harness, slip off the filler tube and then lift it off with 2 people. Job was a snap with everything at standing level. Didn't have to dork around transferring fuel either. Unfortunately, you can't do it the same way with a SuperCrew...
 
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Old Jan 9, 2021 | 06:23 PM
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in the 5.5 hours you spent posting on the internet you could have changed the pump at least twice![/QUOTE]

unless your like I am and can't un-sieze the bolts to the bed. So cutting is required unless I wanna spend 3 hrs cutting them off since I'm not tool equiped or am I a mechanic. Btw I'm a chick before you go sarcastic on me..just a single mom of two trying to save a buck..so the measurements would be ideal for some..mines a 95 f150
 

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