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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:12 AM
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Guy wants all 8 Cyl's TIME-SERTed

Hi Guys, great forum A LOT of great and useful info and help. I have a friend that just blew out a plug a week or so back and I checked on the rental with Galaxy. My question is my friend wants to do ALL 8 cylinders. In checking with the previous posts it seems that most of you guys are recommending repairing each plug as it goes and wait and see if another one goes. I recommended this to my friend but he says that he does not want to worry about getting stuck if he is on the road or is hunting. My MAIN concern is the SHAVINGS X 8. I'm possibly suggesting doing one bank one week and the other another week. Is there a procedure on this site to install the TIME-SERT and what precautions do we use to minimize the shavings other than lots of grease? Thank you to all for the help and advise
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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Where are you located? This might be a better service if you are anywhere near LA/San Diego:

http://blownoutsparkplug.com/highreliability.htm
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 11:46 AM
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by the time that's all done it would be better just to get some 8 thread heads....imo
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mfhjr
Hi Guys, great forum A LOT of great and useful info and help. I have a friend that just blew out a plug a week or so back and I checked on the rental with Galaxy. My question is my friend wants to do ALL 8 cylinders. In checking with the previous posts it seems that most of you guys are recommending repairing each plug as it goes and wait and see if another one goes. I recommended this to my friend but he says that he does not want to worry about getting stuck if he is on the road or is hunting. My MAIN concern is the SHAVINGS X 8. I'm possibly suggesting doing one bank one week and the other another week. Is there a procedure on this site to install the TIME-SERT and what precautions do we use to minimize the shavings other than lots of grease? Thank you to all for the help and advise
If it makes him feel better IMO do it. You can hook up a hose small enough to slide through the plug hole to your shop vac and suck out anything that may have dropped inside. Renting a bore-scope to see that you have a clean cylinder would be a good idea too. You could replace the heads with 8 thread heads but I would think that would cost allot more money.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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Even the 8 thread heads are not completely immune to blowout. You should still torque them to 28 ft/lb.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 03:19 PM
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Thanks for the input, grateful for any other replies or comments. We are located in the Denver Colorado area, GO Broncos (where is that head banging emoticon when u need it)
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 07:28 PM
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To each his own. It will just take longer and be more labor intensive. But a nice peace of mind. Harbor freight sells a small hose attachment kit for about $7 I think. There is an attachment that fits inside the plug well into the cylinder. Lots of grease as recommended with the kit, take your time and clean and re grease. I would stay clear of using compressed air, if there is a valve open, it will just blow debris into them. So, use suction.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
Even the 8 thread heads are not completely immune to blowout. You should still torque them to 28 ft/lb.
how true....

time sert and lock-n-stitch ain't fool proof either....all depends on the competitancy of the person performing the work...imo
 
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Old Apr 2, 2014 | 10:16 PM
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if there is a valve open,
If you have a valve open when you ream and tap, you'll have bigger problems than just shavings....
 

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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
If you have a valve open when you ream and tap, you'll have bigger problems then just shavings....
Roger that. I was thinking of the possibility that a valve is not all the way in the closed position. It can be tricky. Especially if attempting all 8 cylinders
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 06:02 PM
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Tricky? Not really. Look up the firing order, start with #1 then step through the cylinders in their firing order rotating the crank the correct amount when moving to the new one.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 06:22 PM
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If your a person is that concerned they should just buy a kit and have it in the garage like I have. I have all the stuff if another one gors its an hour job. You can buy the basic kit for around $200
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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just pull the heads, makes for nothing to get into the cylinders and super easy
 
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Old Apr 3, 2014 | 08:50 PM
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If he's paying, whatever blows his dress up!
 
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Old Apr 4, 2014 | 10:58 AM
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Once again thank you to all that replied. I would like to find out more about what projectSHO89 is talking about?? How can I find out about the procedure to position the crank to make sure the valves are closed on the cylinder I'm working on? I did buy the small hose attachment kit but I know that I can clear out a lot more of the shavings if I was able to use compressed air but I will not do that unless I'm sure that the valves are closed.
 
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