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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 01:42 AM
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Towing a horse trailer?

Howdy, I have a 2001 Supercrew Cab F150. I am needing to know how much I can pull bumper pull AND Gooseneck.


I don't know what Info you need.

2001
Supercrew Cab
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V8
5.4L
Automatic Transmission
2WD
Wheel Base 138.5 inches
Overall Length 225.9 inches
Maximum GVWR 6350 lbs.
Maximum Towing 8000 lbs.
Payload Base Capacity 1670 lbs.
Horse weighs 1100
Needing either a stock, 2horse slant, 2horse straight with dressing room, or 2 horse slant or straight with living quarters. No 2horse staight, my horse is tall and moves alot, he could flip it.

Thank you VERY much!
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 11:44 AM
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Get a class three hitch you'll be fine.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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Gooseneck?

Originally Posted by ford4life.
Get a class three hitch you'll be fine.
For bumper pull? How about gooseneck?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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He's saying you need to add a receiver hitch, because I'm assuming your truck didn't come with the towing package.

I hope by bumper pull your not thinking of hooking up to the ball on the factory bumper cause chances are you'll either bend the bumper or pull it off.

And I remember someone saying on here goosenecks don't work out well with the short beds and maintaining any turning radius.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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http://images02.olx.com/ui/12/25/59/...-80737712.jpeg

it wont let me upload a pic of my truck but this is what it looks like in the back.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 02:58 PM
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http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0005_large.jpg

Better picture
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 09:14 PM
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Your factory reciever will handle up the 600 lb tonge weight as spec.
The truck is rated to 11,600 lbs total gross combined weight +/- depending on motor, gear ratio, tires size and some other items.
To find out how much weight you can tow safely, have your truck weighed with all the weight you will have in and on the truck, then subtract from the Gross combined weight rating.
That will be your max 'loaded' towing load.
You can see from this that the trailer weight depends on the truck weight.
You will need a brake controller in the cab set up properly, Aux trans cooling, and mirrior extensions so you can see what your doing.
Good luck.
 

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Horsetrainer
Howdy, I have a 2001 Supercrew Cab F150. I am needing to know how much I can pull bumper pull AND Gooseneck.


I don't know what Info you need.

2001
Supercrew Cab
F150
V8
5.4L
Automatic Transmission
2WD
Wheel Base 138.5 inches
Overall Length 225.9 inches
Maximum GVWR 6350 lbs.
Maximum Towing 8000 lbs.
Payload Base Capacity 1670 lbs.
Horse weighs 1100
Needing either a stock, 2horse slant, 2horse straight with dressing room, or 2 horse slant or straight with living quarters. No 2horse staight, my horse is tall and moves alot, he could flip it.

Thank you VERY much!


#1 thanks for not posting the axle code or gear ratio

#2 why would you consider a gooseneck with that truck?

#3 I wouldn't use that truck for a goose neck BUT I tow safely, unlike MANY members on here who brag about pushing thier trucks past the safe limit because they are too cheap to purchase a larger tow rig
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Horsetrainer


nothing wrong with the pics, they show up just fine, BUT which truck is yours?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tarajerame
nothing wrong with the pics, they show up just fine, BUT which truck is yours?
Neither. I said earlier it wouldnt let me upload MY pics, so I googled these. They had the hitch I have underneath. What would I need to pull a bumper pull trailer with a 1200Lb horse in it with this truck? Later on maybe 2 1200lb horses. My tack and all that doesnt weigh aver 100lbs probably.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tarajerame
#1 thanks for not posting the axle code or gear ratio

#2 why would you consider a gooseneck with that truck?

#3 I wouldn't use that truck for a goose neck BUT I tow safely, unlike MANY members on here who brag about pushing thier trucks past the safe limit because they are too cheap to purchase a larger tow rig
IS that being a smart *** or are you serious? I am just asking IF i could do a gooseneck. And I dont plan on going over the safety limit, thats why I am asking how much COULD my truck PULL SAFELY.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 03:46 AM
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I gave you a way to tell if you will do the work on the weights.
As an example:
If your truck weighs in at 6000lbs with full tank of gas, two passengers and some load in the box, 11,600 - 6000= 5000 left for a loaded trailer.
If for instance two horses weighed 1200 x 2 = 2400 + a 3000lb trailer that would = 5400 lbs.
To be legal you would be approx. 400 over limit.
Not much but that's the way you calculate it.
The big 8000 you listed is not the standard to use. It misleads owners, to use those figures.
When your up at or over the limit engineered, you will have faster wear rates on brakes, need to change transmission fluid more often, tires need to have the load rateing etc.
P series tires are actually weight rateing reduced by 10% for towing weights in total. For tires an LT tire would be reccomended.
There is more to it than meets the eye as they say.
Getting up in this weight range demands the truck be upgraded to an F250 for more safety and durability and room for extra gross combined weights.
If your truck goes even higher in loaded weight carrying more passengers then the over limit gross goes even higher.
Good luck.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Horsetrainer
IS that being a smart *** or are you serious? I am just asking IF i could do a gooseneck. And I dont plan on going over the safety limit, thats why I am asking how much COULD my truck PULL SAFELY.
we need to know what your axle code is, you can find that information on your drivers door jamb (a big white sticker)...




I wouldn't pull more than a 2 horse side by side, BUT a 2 horse slant or a 4 horse stock trailer (something light) it would probably tow (depending on weight and your axle ratio)...






I wasn't being a smart ***, I'm very direct with people because I also have to use public roadways with my family and my vehicles
 
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 04:51 PM
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Just my two cents and totally non-scientific, I work at a boat manufacturer and we do a lot of towing and have a wide range of package weights. I also handle the purchase req's and retirements of our vehicles so I'm familiar with what truck is towing what boats and what breaks down the fastest.

One horse (1,200 lbs) plus a basic steel one horse trailer (2,000) = 3,200 lbs. That's equivalent to a 21' to 23' pontoon, trailer, and medium sized outboard. That's around the cutoff for out of town towing on our 3/4 ton trucks. The problem isn't the brakes, or weight, its the longevity of the transmission. If you're hauling every weekend to go to horse shows across the state, you will probably get there safely but the trans will need replaced a lot quicker. Like Bluegrass said, you want to add some upgrades to extend the life of your trans, and also change the fluid a lot more often.

Two horses plus the added weight of a two horse trailer is too much to do safely at highway speeds. You're talking over 5,000 lbs plus all your gear and supplies.

Don't forget, the rule with anything mechanical is that the maximum ratings are not intended to be reached as part of regular operation. Your truck is capable of pulling 11,000 of combined weight, but not on a regular basis.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 02:01 AM
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I am not sure, but I don't think the 3.73 rear end was available for most 01 supercrews.
With that said:

Positives
1) I think your truck would pull it but not very efficiently.
2) A good hitch and 6-7k lb receiver (1 and 1/8" screw, not the knock off 1") with a 2" ball would suffice.
3) I would say you would be close to the max payload for the axle rating, depends on how the trailer is set up and how much weight is actually on the end of the truck and not on the trailer axles.


Negatives
1) any ratio lower than a 3.73 is going to put strain on: engine, tranny, torq conv. and lots of other vitals.
2) Brakes are going to get detrimentally hot if going down hills and steep grades
3) too many to keep stating

In conclusion. Yes, I think you could haul it just fine. But it would take a tole on the truck and is a bit of safety risk. Mainly depends on how far you are going and how often. Safety is the main concern here; for you, other people on the road, and your horses. Be smart about it, check the specks on your truck and axle ratings and have the horse trailer weighed.
 
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