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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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5.4L plug change

Just got a quote from AAA car care to change the plugs on my 1997 F150 with OEM's, fuel filter change and oil change for 312.00
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ric14221
Just got a quote from AAA car care to change the plugs on my 1997 F150 with OEM's, fuel filter change and oil change for 312.00
Good price?
Based upon OEM Motorcraft stuff:

Plugs = $3 each = $24.
Fuel Filter = $15
Oil = $3/quart = $18
Oil filter = $3


Labour (competent labour) 2 hours @ ~$60/hour = $120

total = $180.

Yer call....

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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ric14221
Just got a quote from AAA car care to change the plugs on my 1997 F150 with OEM's, fuel filter change and oil change for 312.00
Good price?
are you able to do it yourself??
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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can't do....Not sure it's worth my time and aggravation...I thought changing the plugs in these trucks was a nightmare?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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can't do....Not sure it's worth my time and aggravation...I thought changing the plugs in these trucks was a nightmare?
Only in the '04-to-mid '08 5.4 3V's. Yers is cake.

So, only you can determine if that ~$132 markup is worth it or not ...

Got a handy friend? Buy the parts from Rock Auto, and the oil & filter from WallyMart, give him a case or two of wobbly-pops (for after :lol), and still save a bundle.

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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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That sounds about right. My local dealer gets $200 for a plug change and $70 for a fuel filter change, their labor rate is $80/hr.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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I just do not understand why dealers charge $70 for a fuel filter change. The filter costs them about $8 and takes maybe 5 minutes to change.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:33 AM
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I just do not understand why dealers charge $70 for a fuel filter change. The filter costs them about $8 and takes maybe 5 minutes to change.
Well, it's takes most folks 5 minutes to change.

For you however ... https://www.f150online.com/forums/3009454-post41.html

Here's a good read on the price/labour disparity:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...el-filter.html

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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
Well, it's takes most folks 5 minutes to change.

For you however ... https://www.f150online.com/forums/3009454-post41.html

Here's a good read on the price/labour disparity:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...el-filter.html

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Good Grief! I think I'll delete my post. How do you do find that stuff?

Ok, so it would take the dealer maybe 10 minutes on one that was stuck.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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I had a COP go bad and while I had that replaced, I changed all 8 plugs and fuel filter on my 5.4L Screw. I have a good friend that has been a Ford mechanic for over 15 years and he helped me. Honestly I didnt do much but watch, but he showed me how to do everything so next time I can do it. Ive had my truck for about a year and was scared as to what the plugs might look like. I was afraid that they had never been changed but they had and it really wasnt too bad changing them. I thought it would have been a nightmare too. The fuel filter was pretty bad, but very easy to change.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Good Grief! I think I'll delete my post. How do you do find that stuff?

Ok, so it would take the dealer maybe 10 minutes on one that was stuck.


> Search >
> Advanced Search >
> Username = "Bluejay" >
> Keywords = "problem", "help", "aw crap", "WTF", "Oh NO" ... etc.

Works every time


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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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I just looked up my receipt for my last fuel filter change at Ford:

Filter: $20.13
Labor: $38.28

List price for the filter and flat rate book labor. Takes more than 5 minutes for a tech to wash his hands, put a paper floor mat and a plastic seat cover in the truck, drive it into the bay, run the lift up, go to the parts department to get the filter, change it, lower the truck, start it, raise it back up and check for leaks, lower it, wash his hands again, drive it out of the bay back to the lot, and go to the advisor to do the paperwork and turn in the key. That takes about 30 minutes and that's just about what the flat rate is.

Shops are in business to make money, and list price for parts and flat rate book labor is a generally accepted way of doing business - along with menu pricing. If you don't like it, do the job yourself.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
I just looked up my receipt for my last fuel filter change at Ford:

Filter: $20.13
Labor: $38.28

List price for the filter and flat rate book labor. Takes more than 5 minutes for a tech to wash his hands, put a paper floor mat and a plastic seat cover in the truck, drive it into the bay, run the lift up, go to the parts department to get the filter, change it, lower the truck, start it, raise it back up and check for leaks, lower it, wash his hands again, drive it out of the bay back to the lot, and go to the advisor to do the paperwork and turn in the key. That takes about 30 minutes and that's just about what the flat rate is.

Shops are in business to make money, and list price for parts and flat rate book labor is a generally accepted way of doing business - along with menu pricing. If you don't like it, do the job yourself.

I do.

$20 for a part that cost them about $8 is excessive. My dealer charges $69.95 for the job and that is just exhorbitant for the job. Usually, the fuel filter is changed at the time you do an oil change or other service work. How many times do they charge you for driving it in, lifting it, putting paper in the floor, cleaning hands, etc.? Once is enough. It literally takes me about ten minutes to get my floor jack out, jack up the truck, slide the jackstand under, remove and replace the filter, lower the truck, and put the jack and stand back.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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If you don't like it, do the job yourself.
Exactly! If your afraid to get your hands dirty, you really can't complain. You can shop around, find a place a place that's reasonable, but still, - you never know what your getting.

I use to take mine to the dealership for service, when new. Lost an engine shortly after picking it up.

I made the time to service her myself after that, - it pays off.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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$20 for a part that cost them about $8 is excessive.
Does the term "MSRP" mean anything to you? I betcha you buy a little bag of chips at the Circle K for 75 cents that costs them 30 cents, and you don't even bat an eye. You can buy the same bag of chips at Sam's Club for about 36 cents if you buy a case of 24.
 
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