Now THAT I would buy. But I want that sumbitch stuffed in the Raptor and possibly available in other trims.

 

Well, I wouldn't see that happening. Scaling up the 2.7L, 4.5L would give you 540 HP and 625 ft-lbs of torque. That'd twist the F150 frame right in two!

 

Rumor has it the 2016 Raptor is going to have a tweaked 3.5 EB. Sorry, V-8 dinosaurs.

 

Yep, 400+ HP is what I've heard. And 1000+ lb. weight loss from the '14 Raptor. Getting rid of that cast iron V8 in favor of the V6 and a few other weight saving measures is supposed to drop an additional 300 lbs over the 700 lbs for the regular F150.

 

Pshh guys are running way more than that with a built trans and rear end with zero issues

Get outta here!

 

Sorry.

http://horsepowerkings.com/sources-2...ight-4600-lbs/

 

I doubt you see a 3.5 EB in a Raptor. I'm hearing the next generation 5.2 engine called VooDoo is going to be in the Raptor. They're also working on a EB version for the SVT Mustang making an easy 750 HP. And yes, it's a V8. If you research it, take a look at the 180 degree crankshaft. It's a thing of beauty and wonderment.

 

Honestly, I think that will happen. Think about it, you won't have to worry about altitude loss having a turbo motor. I do agree its going to be silly, but you can't deny what the EB is capable of.

The VooDoo won't make it into the Raptor anyways. That motor is all about road racing, and high rpm, perfect for the corner carving Mustang variant. The Raptor will need TQ.

 

A crappy torque curve with 600 ft-lbs still has more *** than an awesome torque curve with 300 ft-lbs.

And when and why did you sell the Mustang?!

 

Buying a house and wanted to get out from under the payment. That extra $$/month can really go a ways with utilities and other things. Plus I wasn't driving it nearly enough.

Have you seen the TQ curve of a 3.5 ecoboost? I need to get a copy of my buddy Don's graph. It's sex.

 

Ah, that makes sense then. You been driving fiddy?

Yessir, and I agree. And the 5.0's is horrendous

 

I love the idea of this 2.7 turbo much more than the 3.5. But even though I own 2 older European turbo cars, I have to say there is something to be said for lower tech N/A and 8 cylinders.

Turbo's let you get more power with more complexity, a higher strained engine and higher heat. If you take care of them, I don't doubt they will last just fine. My 2002 car still has it's original turbo and it was known to be a weaker and troublesome Garret. They are also engineered stronger and turbo technology these days means they can easily last the life of the vehicle if taken care of. That means fully synthetic oil and more frequent changes. It also means you let things warm up when you start driving, and cool down before you shut the engine off.

But for someone that wants to keep their truck for 10+ years... I would go non turbo. The higher heat in the engine bay and higher thermal stresses will likely mean replacing rubber and seals that much sooner. Years of synthetic oil and all that cycling of heat will likely mean an engine that is seeping oil. Not to mention, the higher number of parts involved will require some replacement.

I am also not a big fan of direct injection. Valves not getting 'washed' by gas are more likely to carbon up and it will be interesting to see what issues come up down the road. Engineers tend to do all the testing well in advance these days, especially on bread and butter vehicles like the F150. But it's difficult to mimic 10+ years of shorter trips with all sorts of environmental effects and various degrees of maintenance.

It's awesome that we are getting better fuel economy and crazy power out of the new engines... and I would be most seriously looking at the 2.7 if I was buying a 2015 F150.... but the days of worry free use and abuse it and "put it away wet" truck engines seem to be disappearing for better or worse.

I will miss the all iron days of bulletproof truck engines. From the old Ford V8, the straight 6 Ford, and the stout V6 Magnum Rams that we had in our family. Seems the future of truck engines are becoming my older Saab engines and then some.

Just some ramblings from a 38 year old engineer that has worked in automotive for 12+ years...

 

Close. I bought NT (Patrick's red Screw), so I guess Fiddy's sister. lol

Except I call her Redd.

 

Ope, yep that's right haha. I mixed the names up. She still looks good.

 

I think the 5.0 is won't last a whole lot longer on these trucks. The writing is on the wall. Govt types want us all in smaller and smaller cars, and the engines have to come down in size. At least Ford is trying to maintain some spunk in the little beasts. I would love to see a twin turbo v-8. It would be hard to hold for sure.