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efuehrin Aug 4, 2008 03:53 PM

Help Please.. What's wroing with this? Anyone see a problem with this idea?
 
You guy's are going to think I'm nuts.:lol:

Ok, I stated in another thread that the wheels that I want won't fit the stupid ass 5x135 bolt pattern that the 07-03's have. And even though they advertise them, they don't make that bolt pattern.

So why couldn't I just get my buddy who works at a tool and die place to drill new holes, on the hub, between the stock holes and space them for 5x5.5?

Then remove the old studs and press in new ones in the new holes?

Besides it being a lot of work what would be wrong with this plan?

Oh and I think bolt pattern adapters would be a bad idea too. If you know more about them let me know.

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MercedesTech Aug 4, 2008 04:06 PM

I would be worried about the extra holes causing a problem with rigidity and holding up to the massive stress it will see, especially being on your truck running 37"-38" . Then they break, twist or bend and ya gotta make more. Maybe fill in the "extra" holes ? Or plate the entire thing, to make it stronger. Just thinkin out loud

Not 100% though. Thats the only serious probem I can see coming up.

And yes, wheel adapters are not the best idea.

Bluejay Aug 4, 2008 04:06 PM

You lost me on the stud replacement. If you drill new holes, why want they match the exisiting lugs? Secondly, I would be concerned that after drilling new holes, there may not be enough "meat " between holes to keep it from cracking.

efuehrin Aug 4, 2008 04:12 PM

Thanks for the help guy's I was hoping you two would have some input.

What I meant was take out the old studs that are at 5x135 and press new studs into the new holes that are spaced at 5x5.5. The wheels are available for that pattern.

Yea the old holes is my only real concern that I can think of. MercedesTech you may be on to something with the idea of filling the old holes. I could fill it then grind it down smooth.

Not sure how I could plate it without the plate being in the way. ???

crash_lucky13 Aug 4, 2008 04:15 PM

dude, knuckle up and go with the adapters. i was skeptical, but that's what i'm having to do.... trust me, IF there was a simpler way, and IF ANYONE would know of it...i would...

here's another thing...what wheel?? some wheel manufacturers sell a "blank" wheel... meaning you have to drill your own holes...

The Mighty Crash Has Spoken

efuehrin Aug 4, 2008 04:15 PM

I wonder if the new rear axles are the same size and length as the ones I have on my truck? Maybe I could buy some new axles and swap them out? on the back at least......

efuehrin Aug 4, 2008 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by crash_lucky13 (Post 3318791)
dude, knuckle up and go with the adapters. i was skeptical, but that's what i'm having to do.... trust me, IF there was a simpler way, and IF ANYONE would know of it...i would...

here's another thing...what wheel?? some wheel manufacturers sell a "blank" wheel... meaning you have to drill your own holes...

The Mighty Crash Has Spoken

besides the negative affects of the adapters, I'm also worried that my wheel and tire would stick WAY out! Mexican style!:lol::bandito:

pro comp 7005's 20x9.5

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MercedesTech Aug 4, 2008 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by efuehrin (Post 3318789)
Thanks for the help guy's I was hoping you two would have some input.

What I meant was take out the old studs that are at 5x135 and press new studs into the new holes that are spaced at 5x5.5. The wheels are available for that pattern.

Yea the old holes is my only real concern that I can think of. MercedesTech you may be on to something with the idea of filling the old holes. I could fill it then grind it down smooth.

Not sure how I could plate it without the plate being in the way. ???

Wasn't sure on clearence, thats why I threw out the plate idea.

Ya, I think filling in the holes properly, grinding em down flush would be a good way to go. Just remember, you'll have to do it everytime you replace the axle. Might wana try to find some extras you can make em all in one shot and have the extras for the trail.

Crash: I think for his app the wheel adapter/spacer would be a bad idea. He is planning on running some huge monster 38" tires, and he wheels his truck. With the spacer, he would be putting a chit load of stress on the bearings.

** I have been running wheel spacers on my Samurai for awhile now with zero problems. And this things get wheels HARD. So, to each his own.

Nedward Aug 4, 2008 04:26 PM

Like MercedesTech said the old holes are the problem. I dont know much about the difference in spacing btwn the 5x5.5 and 5x135 but if you have a new hole close to an old hole you are in for some trouble.

If your buddy has a machine shop, find a welder who will fill in the old holes. Before you put in your new studs have it machined flat giving you a blank slate. Unless you can remove the hub(?) from the axle you should probably use a lathe bc a mill might not be able to hold the axle.

efuehrin Aug 4, 2008 04:27 PM

I should probaby go to a junk yard and try to mod some spare axles.

Mercedes......what breaks when the spacers make something break?

actually I don't offroad much........but I have been known to be hard on my vehicles from time to time.:devil::lol:
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efuehrin Aug 4, 2008 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Nedward (Post 3318804)
Like MercedesTech said the old holes are the problem. I dont know much about the difference in spacing btwn the 5x5.5 and 5x135 but if you have a new hole close to an old hole you are in for some trouble.

If your buddy has a machine shop, find a welder who will fill in the old holes. Before you put in your new studs have it machined flat giving you a blank slate. Unless you can remove the hub(?) from the axle you should probably use a lathe bc a mill might not be able to hold the axle.

Again guy's thanks for all the help!:thumbsup:

Yea another buddy of mine is a welder.
Maybe I'll have my Tool and Die friend come over tonight and see if he thinks he can do it.

I could probably pic up some axles from a junk yard pretty cheap. front hub assembly too.

Bluejay Aug 4, 2008 04:30 PM

I misunderstood what you were doing. I thought you were drilling the wheels. You're proposing to drill the axels. Man, I just don't think I would trust the weakened plate.

crash_lucky13 Aug 4, 2008 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by MercedesTech (Post 3318800)
Crash: I think for his app the wheel adapter/spacer would be a bad idea. He is planning on running some huge monster 38" tires, and he wheels his truck. With the spacer, he would be putting a chit load of stress on the bearings.

so? he's going to be putting a chit load of stress on everything else, right? right

MercedesTech Aug 4, 2008 04:46 PM

If you have someone who knows how to weld, I would talk to them about this as well. He will know the proper heat to use, and proper filler material. I haven't looked into it, but depending on what the actual material is of the hub, I would use the ole gas welder, with maybe some nickel filler. I think that would strengthen them enough to hold up. Talk to them though, let them see what thy are working with and they will probably know the best route to go.

Wheel spacers usually = early bearing failure. I have also seen axles broken on a "spaced" set-up. Generally its the bearings though, which can lead to all sorts of fawked parts in the end, and usually isn't and "easy trail fix".

MercedesTech Aug 4, 2008 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by crash_lucky13 (Post 3318825)
so? he's going to be putting a chit load of stress on everything else, right? right

Ya, ya, ya... :D

You know how thick the spacer actually is ?


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