E85 Ethanol
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E85 Ethanol
hey guys- I have done tons of research on E 85 Ethanol as an alternative fuel. what mods do you need in your engine to be able to do this. I have a 1978 Scout II with a 392 CI and i am thinking about making this conversion. is it possible for a carbed engine to use this fuel? any idea on price? any help i would appreciate! thanks guys
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Originally Posted by D's984x4
hey guys- I have done tons of research on E 85 Ethanol as an alternative fuel. what mods do you need in your engine to be able to do this. I have a 1978 Scout II with a 392 CI and i am thinking about making this conversion. is it possible for a carbed engine to use this fuel? any idea on price? any help i would appreciate! thanks guys
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Burn the gas, and send them a donation. That way, you can sleep at night
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Originally Posted by D's984x4
hey guys- I have done tons of research on E 85 Ethanol as an alternative fuel. what mods do you need in your engine to be able to do this. I have a 1978 Scout II with a 392 CI and i am thinking about making this conversion. is it possible for a carbed engine to use this fuel? any idea on price? any help i would appreciate! thanks guys
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Awhile back I was talking to a co-worker of mine that sells fuel pumps to the OEMs... so this is based on good information.
But I cannot go into any sort of detail about the carb and O2 sensors... I just don't know the details...
Perhaps you could find someone that makes kits for older vehicles? maybe something where the O2 sensors and controllers are included? But it would probably be expensive.
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While you might want to be eco-friendly, the E85 isn't engine friendly. It's highly corrosive to an engine. The newer Gf-5 oils will address this issue but until then, I'd avoid any E85.
http://www.gf-5.com/the_story/performance/
http://www.gf-5.com/the_story/performance/
Last edited by Labnerd; 04-07-2008 at 03:15 PM.
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With a carb that's not electronically controlled, some huge oversize jets should be all it needs to RUN properly, other than cranking the idle mixture screws a lot richer - but the ethanol is going to eat needles and seats for lunch and probably rot the floats too. Gonna have a hard time keeping fuel pumps in it too and all rubber parts will have to be replaced with alcohol-resistant materials.
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Originally Posted by Labnerd
While you might want to be eco-friendly, the E85 isn't engine friendly. It's highly corrosive to an engine. The newer Gf-5 oils will address this issue but until then, I'd avoid any E85.
http://www.gf-5.com/the_story/performance/
http://www.gf-5.com/the_story/performance/
E85 has been tested and isn't really any more "green" than gasoline.
Besides, without building up the engine to higher compression to burn E85 more efficiently, what's the use?
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what's the use?
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Originally Posted by Larry L
It solves the political question- what are the idiots in Washington doing to relieve the price at the pump. Unfortunately most folks don't realize that it takes diesel to plant it and harvest it as it doesn't just suddenly appear in a field. They don't realize that it requires more energy to produce than it it yields. It will never be THE fuel of the future. It's all in the politics, nothing more. Frankly, as a fuel, it sucks. There are much better options available but the Gov't can't control them like they can when it comes to you from a gas pump. It's all about the money and if the price of energy keeps rising, life that the US folks have become accustomed to is over. You'll be working to put gas in the tank and food on the table. There won't be any money left over to mod the truck or go to the beer joints.
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Originally Posted by Larry L
There won't be any money left over to mod the truck or go to the beer joints.