2017 3.5 Ecoboost first drive

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Old 09-01-2016, 12:21 PM
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2017 3.5 Ecoboost first drive

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375 HP, 470 torque, 10 speed. Raptor is going to have even higher numbers.

New turbos, both direct and port fuel injection.
 
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Oh, I thought you had gone to the dealer for a test drive when I saw the title!!
 
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I wish!
 
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It shows a redline of 5750 which means fuel/spark cutoffs will be around 6500ish. I doubt the new turbos are all that much bigger. The Duratech V6 is capable of a lot more revs than that but the turbos can't pump enough air to feed it. They get pushed outside their efficiently envelope and just start making too much heat. I'm curious to see what can be done to this engine though. The dual injectors really add to the available fueling options.
 
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New turbochargers have greater volume, lighter turbine wheels and higher boost pressure for quicker response.
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I doubt the new turbos are all that much bigger.
I'm curious to see what can be done to this engine though.
600 HP in the new GT. Same basic 2nd generation engine.
 
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Old 09-02-2016, 11:13 AM
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I read that part but they really didn't go into details.

The engine in the GT isn't the same as the truck engine. It is based on the car engine because it's lighter and easier to tune because the cams aren't as variable. The race teams went that route to save development time and since it would be turning high RPMs most of the time the variable cam benefits wouldn't be worth the extra effort.

Boost pressure isn't the only factor in play. There are limits to how much the boost can be cranked up based on the volume of air they can pump. Once you hit that limit the amount of heat generated gets too high and power drops off. I've seen where an engine makes more power with a larger turbo at lower pressure than a small turbo at high pressure. The big turbo is pumping a lot more volume of air at a lower temperature. I'm hoping they switch to the K04 series of turbo and they will fit the Gen I EB.
 



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