Originally Posted by markinzeroland
I recently bought a new 2010 F-150 FX4 Super Crew with the maximum tow package to replace my 1997 F-150 XLT Super Cab with no towing package. After nearly 14 years, I never really came close to maxing the payload capacity of the old truck and only towed a light trailer one time on the bumper.
I am a towing neonate.
However, Iíve recently taken over the job of Scoutmaster of a Boy Scout troop and need to be able to tow our troop trailer (thereís a guy with a Silverado 2500HD diesel thatíll do most the towing, Iím his backup).
My worse case scenario involves hauling my self and four Boy Scouts, our personal camping gear, and the 7000 lb troop trailer for a campoutÖ When I looked into what I needed for the new truck, I used the following estimates for this scenario:
Occupant payload = 600 lbs (estimate, myself and four boys)
Luggage payload = 250 lbs (estimate, personal gear, etc)
Truck cap = 220 lbs (supplied by vendor)
Tongue weight = 700 to 800 lbs (says the guy who tows the trailer most of the time)
Total payload = 1850 lbs.
I thought I was okay with the Super Crew (it has a 6.5 foot bed) because the brochure said it had a payload capacity of 1810 lbs and a towing capacity of 11,100 lbs (subject to change). Yeah, tight on the payload but given I was thinking this as my worse case scenario; I felt I could live within the confines of the payload capacity. A Super Duty would give me plenty more margin but I didnít think I required a Super Duty. Certainly not the way I use the truck most of the time.
Now that I have my new truck, the Tire and Loading sticker on the B-pillar says the maximum payload is 1656 lbs.
Exactly how conservative are the Tire and Loading stickers? Will 1657 lbs break an axle? Where would 1850 lbs put me? In the not recommended, shame on me category or are you a complete fool category?
I suppose I can limit my payload to myself + three boys + camping gear + truck cap + tongue weight and get it to about 1700 lbs. Is 44 lbs over a bad thing? Should we all go to the bathroom before the trip?
You should feel fortunate you've got a '10 - if it were an '09, even with max tow package (which is what I have) you'd be WAY over GVWR - and as a result illegal.
According to Ford, a lot of these "Built Ford Tough" '09 f-150's trucks can't carry much more than a station wagon - my wife's '07 Expedition has considerably higher payload capacity than the vast majority of '09 F-150's on the road! A family of four, plus gas, a bed cap, camping gear for a long weekend and technically we're illegal because we've exceeded GVWR in the F-150. Guess I'll leave the canoe at home. Or, take the wife's Expy.
Many '09 owners, especially those of the loaded up Platinums and Lariats have been surprised to learn their payload capacity is less than 1200lbs - some don't break 1,000lbs.
In all seriousness, I've driven both the Expy and F-150 extensively, and towed with both and clearly the F-150 is more capable of carrying cargo and towing (I have'09 Lariat, max tow, 5.4L, 4x4, 3:73, door sticker says 1197lb payload capacity, 350lbs less than wife's Expy). However, according to Ford's specs I'm illegal doing the camping trip in the F-150 because I have exceeded GVWR, but perfectly legal in the Expy. Come on Ford, ante up here - make it legal for me to go camping with my family in my "Built Ford Tough" truck.
I just did a road trip with the F-150 1000 miles each way for the kids spring break, loaded similar as to what you have described. I weighed it before I left, the truck loaded up with trailer attached, cargo in rear, people and full tank of gas came in at just under 7500lbs (3450lbs on front axle, just under 4000lbs on rear), pulling 30ft. camper with rear axle weight of 6600lbs (additional tongue weight on truck was 840lbs, which makes total trailer weight aprox. 7500lbs).
Pulled extremely well, handled great, passing uphill at 70-75mph without problems (running with Equalizer WD setup).
Hope this helps......