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redryder428 Aug 8, 2005 12:02 PM

SUpercrew on 22's
 
Hey does anyone have a Supercrew on 22's if so lets see em, should be getting mine this week....woo hoo!!!! :rocker:

socalmikef150 Aug 8, 2005 12:13 PM

some said to go with 22's..i went with 20's real happy with em..good luck with them!

redryder428 Aug 8, 2005 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by socalmikef150
some said to go with 22's..i went with 20's real happy with em..good luck with them!

what do they look like.....put up a pic of the truck! I will post mine as soon as I get them on!

dufunnel Aug 8, 2005 04:50 PM

I haven't seen too many in the new body style. I've got 24's on my 2001 King Ranch.

https://www.f150online.com/galleries...-298-73882.jpg

01RedCrew Aug 8, 2005 07:52 PM

Dufunnel - that's a nice looking KR!

socalmikef150 Aug 9, 2005 11:49 AM

soon as i figure out how to get the pics onto here..i will..not at my hoime computer for a little while..22's wiill look kool for sure.... :thumbsup:

redryder428 Aug 9, 2005 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by dufunnel
I haven't seen too many in the new body style. I've got 24's on my 2001 King Ranch.

https://www.f150online.com/galleries...-298-73882.jpg

Wow.....that is one bad ass S-crew......did you have to upgrade the braking at all to put the 24's on there?

dufunnel Aug 9, 2005 03:13 PM

Thanks for the comments.

I put Powerslot rotors on because I developed a squealing with the stock brakes. Not sure if it was related to the size of the wheels or not, but all I did was get Powerslots and new brake pads. No upgrading of calipers or similar. I have not seen a decrease in gas mileage, although I have so many modifications that who knows what has contributed to what. I have a custom tune and I have completely replaced the fuel system and added a supercharger. I consistently get around 16 mpg with mixed driving without too much stepping on it.

I almost went with the Eagle 025's in 22" for my wife's Nissan Murano, but opted for a different 22" for that instead. The increase in wheel size will be negligible on gas mileage if you stay relatively close to the overall stock diameter. If you get 44" tires you will probably see a change.

DANZITSCREW Aug 9, 2005 06:15 PM

Maybe it's me....
 
O.K. I'm just a plain hillbilly from WV, but what is the point in getting "22's?" Is there any functional advantage at all or merely the looks? To me it just seems ridiculous to spend $2500 for wheels and tires to say you have "22's." Then again, I don't put anything on/ in my truck unless it is going to serve a purpose. Maybe I'm losing touch with society, perfect, just keep the beer coming.

LT Dan

olaos2001 Aug 9, 2005 08:21 PM

It is just for the looks and a little DCECREASE in performance. In any racing circle they'll tell you, your wheels should be just big enough to fit over your brakes. The goal is to reduce unsprung weight.

I am certainly not suggesting that 15" rims are cool. However, at some point, larger wheels begin to just look bigger, not necessarily better. Most importantly, you loose the lines of the car because your main focus is the large wheels. Most of the time you remember the wheels but have a hard time remembering what vehicle they were on or who was driving.

Every time someone tells me they have larger rims than mine, I tell them well yes, but mine are faster. Then they say, "But I purchased lightweight forged wheels and they are just as light as yours, so just as fast." Not exactly. Lets say, for the sake of conversation, there is an 18" wheel that is just as light as the factory 16" wheel. Some might say, since they weigh the same, the vehicle with the 18" wheels is just as fast as the one with 16" wheels, given all else to be equal like horsepower, vehicle weight, etc. That is not true; the one with the 16" wheels is the fastest. For an average wheel, 50% of its weight is concentrated in the barrel. This means for an average 16" wheel that weighs 20 Lbs., typically 10 pounds are in the barrel. Now, if we have an 18" that weighs 20 pounds (this is more atypical than typical), it too would have the same 10 pounds in the barrel. What's the difference? Well, for that 18" wheel, that 10 pounds is located 1" farther from the center of rotation. This means more rotational weight. Take 10 pounds, well maybe just 5 pounds, and hold it in your hand. Stretch out your hand so that you are holding the weight with your arm horizontal to the floor. Now spin that weight in a small circle and then in a large one. It takes more energy to spin that 10 pounds in a larger circle. A more simple example is ankle weights. Strap 5 pounds on each leg. Not so bad when you are sitting in a chair. But get up and start moving around and you really start to notice that extra weight.

At low speeds, that extra rotational weight is not very significant. However, in racing circles where speed is important, that weight is not insignificant. For example, in IRL they use 15" rims, just large enough to fit over the brakes. At the g-forces they experience in IRL, both straight line and laterally, a few extra pounds of rotational weight makes a huge difference. If you want a car where you can cruise around at posted speed limits and keep acceleration and deceleration to a minimum, then the bigger the better, I guess. To each his own!

http://www.bulletteam.com/car.php

http://www.tpub.com/machines/3a.htm

My 1st 1fifty Aug 9, 2005 09:10 PM

Hello people and for my first post here, i shall simply state this. Putting on 20", 22" or even 24" wheels is something you either get or don't get. If you opt for a larger wheel you get it. If you have to ask why would someone put these wheels on then well uh you don't. Its a choice , a preference, and a style. As for me I just got my 22's today and i can't wait to put em on in the morning. I'll post some pics just as soon as i can.

dufunnel Aug 10, 2005 10:20 AM

Performance? In big wheels? Ha, that's pretty funny. It is strictly appearance. When I take my truck to the track for some serious passes, I usually put the stock 17" wheels back on.

redryder428 Aug 10, 2005 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by olaos2001
It is just for the looks and a little DCECREASE in performance. In any racing circle they'll tell you, your wheels should be just big enough to fit over your brakes. The goal is to reduce unsprung weight.

I am certainly not suggesting that 15" rims are cool. However, at some point, larger wheels begin to just look bigger, not necessarily better. Most importantly, you loose the lines of the car because your main focus is the large wheels. Most of the time you remember the wheels but have a hard time remembering what vehicle they were on or who was driving.

Every time someone tells me they have larger rims than mine, I tell them well yes, but mine are faster. Then they say, "But I purchased lightweight forged wheels and they are just as light as yours, so just as fast." Not exactly. Lets say, for the sake of conversation, there is an 18" wheel that is just as light as the factory 16" wheel. Some might say, since they weigh the same, the vehicle with the 18" wheels is just as fast as the one with 16" wheels, given all else to be equal like horsepower, vehicle weight, etc. That is not true; the one with the 16" wheels is the fastest. For an average wheel, 50% of its weight is concentrated in the barrel. This means for an average 16" wheel that weighs 20 Lbs., typically 10 pounds are in the barrel. Now, if we have an 18" that weighs 20 pounds (this is more atypical than typical), it too would have the same 10 pounds in the barrel. What's the difference? Well, for that 18" wheel, that 10 pounds is located 1" farther from the center of rotation. This means more rotational weight. Take 10 pounds, well maybe just 5 pounds, and hold it in your hand. Stretch out your hand so that you are holding the weight with your arm horizontal to the floor. Now spin that weight in a small circle and then in a large one. It takes more energy to spin that 10 pounds in a larger circle. A more simple example is ankle weights. Strap 5 pounds on each leg. Not so bad when you are sitting in a chair. But get up and start moving around and you really start to notice that extra weight.

At low speeds, that extra rotational weight is not very significant. However, in racing circles where speed is important, that weight is not insignificant. For example, in IRL they use 15" rims, just large enough to fit over the brakes. At the g-forces they experience in IRL, both straight line and laterally, a few extra pounds of rotational weight makes a huge difference. If you want a car where you can cruise around at posted speed limits and keep acceleration and deceleration to a minimum, then the bigger the better, I guess. To each his own!

http://www.bulletteam.com/car.php

http://www.tpub.com/machines/3a.htm

WTF is this I want to see Supercrews on 22's who cares about this crap.....if your puttin 22's on your truck your not lookin to go fast - If you aint got a S-crew with 22's on it or dont get why people do it....dont come into this Forum......

olaos2001 Aug 10, 2005 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by redryder428
WTF is this I want to see Supercrews on 22's who cares about this crap.....if your puttin 22's on your truck your not lookin to go fast - If you aint got a S-crew with 22's on it or dont get why people do it....dont come into this Forum......

I was not trying to flame anyone. I was just pointing out facts and trying give a little info. I did not mean to offend anyone. No where in my post do I say you should not buy 22" rims or do I trash those that have them. Hey, if you like them buy them. Like I said, " If you want a car where you can cruise around at posted speed limits and keep acceleration and deceleration to a minimum, then the bigger the better..."

I was just pointing out to DANZITSCREW the reason behind "why some people don't get it (them)".

The reason why I "come into this forum" is because I have a 2001 Supercrew and my wife has a 2003 Supercrew. I get a lot of good information from this forum.

redryder428 Aug 10, 2005 05:18 PM

Sorry Brother.....didnt mean it as a flame to you either......just want to SEE some Screws on 22's, not read about advatanges or disadvantages. They may not make your truck any faster, but look at that King Ranch, they make the Screw look awesome, cant wait to get mine on this week.....no hard feelings..... :beers:


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