Why is it that i see the new F-150 whipple on page 66 of April Truckin' magazine installed? i thought that the kit wasnt done.

 

HI!... I talked to my WHIPPLE contact today and got this info :

- kit has been pushed back 6 weeks, trying to get C.A.R.B certification right now.

- They have 2 kits out running around right now doing R&D. Ones on a 5.4 2- valve and the other is on a 5.4 3 - valve.

- Kit will start at just under 8 psi, but I was told it will show 8PSI on a boost guage.

- I was also told that WHIPPLE has now signed on to the FORD GT project. It will be their twin screw on the car.

- The kit will come with 34LB injectors, their PCM programming, fuel pump, SC, custom lower intake manifold, LIGHTNING intercooler (GARRETT), LIGHTNING intercooler pump and all the hardware.

- my soarce is currently trying to get data on getting me a partial kit. They will let me know soon. I don't need a full kit. I have most of it already.

- the 2300ax is capable of almost 2300CFM and will support 1200H.P

- It can be spun up to 25PSI with no more stress than if it was at 16PSI.

- I was quoted a price of $4100(U.S), but that could of just been for me?

- I'll post more info as it comes in.

P.S : Found out that the rotor packs are now built by WHIPPLE themselves and are done so in the U.S. Getting parts WILL NOT be a problem, but they have had no such problems like the KB and their CASE deflection problems. It will be almost the exact same SC set-up as the WORKS 140 kit which is a WHIPPLE.

 

HI!... Well CRASH I'm not going to get into a pissing contest over this with you but my soarce is working directly with ART WHIPPLE himself and his son so I don't know where your getting your info from. My guy will also be one of the 1st to tune the set-up for WHIPPLE and partial kits will be available, to CERTAIN people if you have the right conections. I do. He will also be getting some of the 1ST kits available and is also a WHIPPLE WHOLESALER. In fact he has been for a long time. My guy has been working on it with then since the beginning when the kit was thought up 2 years ago. I'll post additional info as it is told or info/specs are faxed to me. All I can see right now is this kit will rock! for a twin screw.

 

If it uses the Lightning intercooler, then it will bolt up to a Lightning right?

 

HI!... Big Man : WHIPPLE uses their own custom lower intake manifold (aluminum), It looks VERY similiar to the LIGHTNING's lower intake manifold but where the actuall compressor bolts to it is different due to the different bolt pattern of the 2300AX compressor. In other words, the EATON off the LIGHTNING will NOT bolt onto this intake manifold. The intercooler is the same one used in the LIGHTNING made by GARRETT. It is the improved unit that does not have the leak flaws as the "99"/"00" LIGHTNING intercoolers had.

 

neal remeber that you are talking to a person that has finacial benefit from the product, so dont believe everything you hear.

so the works has been talked about for ever but delivery stink, why will this kit be any different and how many works 140 are out there, i would think there are more KB out so the problems have been identified.

once again, i have seen the works talked about for a long time and few have them. I sale machinery and i get this sales pitch all the time "you are the man" "you have first shot at new product" "give you a better price since you are so great"
i get the same product, price delivery as everyone else.

i havent done the math, but enough power to support 1800 sound a little outragious and considering that the top lightnings are making around 700 hp with a similar size blower at over 20 psi i have to think about that claim.

hope it works out for you Neal. i think you got sales pitched, but it does look llike a good product. I do think that crash has dealings with them and i do think he has probably been given dates and information, only to have the dates pushed back and information never develope, happens everyday and it is not dishonest as we all have an idea of what we would like to do but then it dosent work out or there are problems. the lightning guys did battle over the works vs kb thing and kb beat works to the punch by delivering product.

until the kit is out, i would not make any plans around it.

 

OK, thanks, I was just wondering. Seems nobody can get the Works 140 so I thought that is would be a different option.

 

HI!... BROTHERDAVE : Just realized I have a typo. It's not 1800H.P (I WISH!). It's 1200H.P. The correction has been fixed. My bad. As for being *SALE PITCHED*. I doubt it. I've been dealing with this guy for a VERY long time and he has never steered me wrong and always has come through. As for making plans around it, already done. My new 5.4 WILL be built for this SC, plain and simple. As for no works 140's out there, there is a ton of LIGHTNING guys running them. We'll just have to wait and see. I do have more info but was told not to say anything about those items yet, so I won't. When I get permission I will tell. I'm doing things at my own pace and that's fine with me.

 

what i am getting at is that the SALES PITCH can come from a wholesaler, the mfg. the marketing department, the engineers and the list goes on. i deal with it every day, the next biggest thing rarley is all that and ususally not on schedual and not without a few issues.
as for tons of 140's out there, i dont know the definition of tons but i bet you would be doing good to name 15 on the lightning board here (i might be wrong, just havent seen that many).

whipple makes a great product, i dont deny that. i would imagine they are making a great effort to produce a complete kit from the chip to the injectors. it will probably be worth waiting for.

 

Neal & Crash - Whipple is not doing the GT. Eaton has the rights to sell Lysholm screw compressors. Eaton, Ford and Rousch are doing the tuning and developement for the GT. Crash is right about the rotor packs. Lysholm takes care of all of that.

As for Works kits in circulation, there are less than 30 that I know of. I don't think that qualifies as a ton.

 

Whatever

 

nice response Neal.

 

HI!... BROTHERDAVE : THANKS! Some people I just don't waste my time with.

 

Magnuson has the sole rights to sell Eaton roots blowers to the aftermarket, Eaton sell direct to the Manufactures. Where do you come up with this stuff? The site will be up as soon as I get a chance. I now understand why you and Neal went at it. he doesn't seem to have very inteligent responces.

BTW - Crash made you look. What are you hoping to see on the site?

 

HI!... Why would ART WHIPPLE himself lie about supplying SC'ers for the FORD GT project. I guess it could happen but I have heard the exact same thing from soarces at FORD's engine plants here in WINDSOR. Till it actually comes out we won't know but I'll still think it will be a WHIPPLE. I believe what I have heard from my soarces and what I have read.

P.S : I don't have a problem with CRASH, he has had one with me. We are slowly working things out. So when you comment on something you don't know anything about, it's best to keep your mouth shut. Thankyou.