In California? Ordering from Troyer?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 23, 2007 | 02:55 PM
  #1  
Fifty150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,688
Likes: 28
From: The Barbary Coast
In California? Ordering from Troyer?

Troyer wants to know if you have 10% ethanol in your gas.

In California, it is 5.7%.

I called the California Air Resources board and was able to locate this information online.

http://www.energy.ca.gov/ethanol/index.html
WWW.ENERGY.CA.GOV / ETHANOL
ETHANOL As a Transportation Fuel In California

As of January 1, 2004, California completed a transition from methyl tertiary butyl-ether (MTBE) to ethanol as a gasoline oxygenate additive. With most gasoline sold in the state presently containing 5.7 percent ethanol, California is now the largest ethanol fuel market in the United States. About one billion gallons of ethanol are expected to be used in the state's gasoline supply in 2004.

The Energy Commission continues to study the potential for ethanol fuel production and use as part of California's overall strategy to assure adequate transportation energy supplies and reduce dependence on petroleum. In addition to its use as a gasoline blending component, ethanol can also be used as E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gasoline) in flexible fuel vehicles being produced by automakers.

Most of California's current ethanol supply comes from the Midwest U.S. corn-based industry, with a small supply contribution from foreign imports. There are only two small producers of ethanol in California today; however, a number of projects for expanded in state ethanol production are under consideration.

For Fuel Ethanol Price Graphs, please go to:
Last 18 Months
Last 10 Years
Gasoline Components Prices

For more information about ethanol please contact:

Emerging Fuels & Technology Office
Fuels and Transportation Division
California Energy Commission
1516 Ninth Street, MS-44
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916-654-4628

ETHANOL (also know has Ethyl Alcohol or Grain Alcohol, chemical formula CH3CH2OH) is a liquid produced mostly via fermentation and distillation processes from sugar and starch crop feedstock. Advanced processes for producing ethanol from agricultural, forestry and municipal wastes and residues are under development. Ethanol has been used in the U.S. as a gasoline octane enhancer and oxygenate since the 1970s when federal energy tax policy was enacted to encourage domestic production and use of this fuel.
 
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 12:49 AM
  #2  
TexEdition's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,184
Likes: 0
From: Austin
And the box my Xcal 2 device came in has a big sticker on it saying "Not legal for sale in the state of California"..

For whatever that's worth..

 
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:02 AM
  #3  
cdnance's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 570
Likes: 0
From: concord, nc
just move to a different state.

either that or get ready to change the truck back to stock when you need to.
 
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 01:17 AM
  #4  
TexEdition's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,184
Likes: 0
From: Austin
Originally Posted by cdnance
just move to a different state.

either that or get ready to change the truck back to stock when you need to.
Right!!

It's only illegal once you've been caught..

Though if fifty's original question was can Troyer write tunes for the gas he has to use.. hmmmm.. I'd say a phone call is in order.
 
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 03:08 AM
  #5  
cdnance's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 570
Likes: 0
From: concord, nc
Originally Posted by TexEdition
Right!!

It's only illegal once you've been caught..

Though if fifty's original question was can Troyer write tunes for the gas he has to use.. hmmmm.. I'd say a phone call is in order.
since troyer has said he has been specializing in f-150's for over 16 years, im guessing he can. maybe a little datalogging will be necessary but i agree, a phone call is necessary.

if you get the tunes though you will love them
 
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2007 | 03:14 AM
  #6  
Fifty150's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,688
Likes: 28
From: The Barbary Coast
Originally Posted by TexEdition
Right!!

It's only illegal once you've been caught..

Though if fifty's original question was can Troyer write tunes for the gas he has to use.. hmmmm.. I'd say a phone call is in order.

I actually did call Troyer and ordered. That's why I know that Troyer will ask if you have 10% ethanol. I didn't have a clue. I suspect many others won't know what kind of junk goes into their gas here in California. I just figured that I would post the information to save everyone else in CA the research.
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 11:45 AM
  #7  
i.ride.suzuki's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,573
Likes: 0
Great post, might i add that the stoichic air fuel ratio changes when using ethonol.

The calculation is...

Stoichic AFR = 14.64 - 5.64 * PM
PM=Percent Methonal

California PM=5.7%

Stoichic AFR = 14.64 - (5.64 * 5.7%)

Stoichic AFR = 14.64 - (0.32148)

Stoichic AFR = 14.31852
 
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:45 PM
  #8  
mSaLL150's Avatar
Technical Article Contributor
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,862
Likes: 0
From: Northern California
thanks for the info!
 
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:38 AM.