Personally, I like the looks of an F-150 better than any other pickup. But, I am planning on keeping whatever truck I buy for a very long time (at least 10-12 years). The only thing that scares me about the F-150 is RELIABILITY. You gotta know the Toyota will be more reliable than the Ford. I doubt the doors on a Tundra will crack in two pieces or that a brand new engine will leak oil. I have done lots of homework and know plenty about both trucks.

So - which truck is a better purchase, the Tundra or F-150? Remember - this is a truck I plan on keeping for a long time!!

BTW - I found a Tundra site that is strangely similar to this one - www.tundrasolutions.com. Check it out!

 

I think you just gotta go with what you really want.All I know from my own experience is when my buddy pulled in driving his brand new 1997 F-150 Lariat into the work parking lot 3years ago I was sold right then. Regardless of the problems these vehicles have had( I wanna know what vehicle hasn't had problems) I set myself on owning the F-150.As far as reliability goes,there are an awful lot of older F-150's out there,and fetching a pretty hefty price tag even after being used and dare I say abused so somebody has or is doing something right.I finally achieved my goal and got my F-150 back in the middle of February and couldn't be happier!!!Good luck whichever way you go..

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2000 F-150,4x2,supercab,4.2,5 speed.Mods are only a matter of time,and money!!!

 

But will the Tundra have the same fate as T100?
Look at the resale value on the T100.
I hope you don't want a V8 regular cab, cause you can't have it (primary reason I didn't go with Tundra).
Also I hope you have an extra couple grand.
Ford gives you the most options and the best value for the $$$ IMHO.
I had a Nissan before my F150, so when I went shopping I wasn't biased to any of the brands.

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99 XLT 5.4L Regular Cab 4x2 120" Wheelbase 4 wheel disc brakes/ABS 5 star larait style wheels Toreador Red/Silver 3.55 gears 255/70/16 OWL Delta toolbox, Ford Running Boards, Ventshades, Bugflector, Bullrings, Donnelly compass mirror, 2" Rear drop.
Eclipse 5340 cd player
Memphis ARCS50 component speakers w/tweeters mounted flush in the door panels (excellent sound)powered by a Sherwood 35x2 RMS amp
Kicker ZR360 for the 2 Audiobahn AWC10 subs
regcab54@sc.rr.com

 

Here's a quote i got from the Tundra board:
It can be seen at: http://www.tundrasolutions.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000208.html

 

It just looks like a little beginner truck. I like Ford cause it's down right American too. You want a Toy, than go get one, cause a little 'ol toy is just what it is. I don't know, but it's a good feelin drivin down the road in a "fullsize, American made truck".

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Hey UtahBrian, I'm not a truck salesman, nor do I feel the need to sell you an F-150. The truck speaks for itself. I will however state some facts in my choice for why "I" picked the F-150 over the Tundra. I've done a tremendous amount of research on the Ford F-150 and found it to be the best truck, hands down. I also looked at the Dodge Ram and Silverado.
The knowledge I gained learning about the F-150 was incredible. For instants.... 4 of the 10 top-selling VEHICLES for the past six years were Fords (F-Series, Explorer, Taurus and Ranger). Ford seems to be doing something right! Out of all the manufacturers Ford sells 40% of the top selling vehicles. J.D. Powers & Associates initial quality survey ranked the F-Series truck #1 in full-size pickups. Consumers Reports "RELIABILITY" of vehicles based on frequency-of-repair data from subscriber responses to an annual questionnaire was "Better Than Average". The F-150 also holds its value exceptionally well! J.D. Powers & Associates market segment shown the projected values of the F-150 after 5 years 75,000 to drop 41%.... there's still 59% plus you can work with, such as getting the 5.4 Liter.... it will increase the value even more. Another important factor for me was "Safety"! The F-150 ranks at the top of the list in crash tests. It's been the #1 selling truck for the past 21 years.... there's a reason for that.... Quality! Don't get me wrong, every vehicle has it's lemons or flaws. That's just a fact in any truck you look at, some more than others. Also, 94% of the feedbacks of test drives from different magazines rank the F-150 as a great truck!
I'm not saying the Tundra isn't, but as some of the members have mentioned.... it's a first year model. I read were you stated you would get the second year model, but that still doesn't insure the flaws in the first year won't be in the second... ie. owners not finding them until later in the year when the second years have already been in production. If you look at the F-150, members who have the 97,98,99 models still find flaws. It takes time to get the bugs out of a new model vehicle and I'm sure it's a pain in the A$$ for some members to have to experience them. I feel fortunate to have purchased my F-150 when I did, not to say the 97-99's aren't great at all or the earlier models in the past. Most of the problems "SHOULD" be worked out and corrected.... I hope!
The Tundra in my opinion isn't a full-size truck.... close, but no. I think they're too pricy also, for what you get.... doesn't seem like much. The cab space is a bit closed quarters not nearly as roomy as the F-150 Supercab. The F-150 pound for pound, in my opinion is better in all aspects and the ride is exceptionally smooth for a truck.... I get compliments all the time about the ride!
I don't know all there is to know about the Tundra.... but IMHO the Ford F-150 is a more sound investment. If you're looking for a truck to buy, you may not have to look any further. Thought some solid facts may help you in your decision. I'm not trying to stop you from buying a Tundra.... that's for you to decide and I'm sure you'll come to some conclusion that best suits your life-style and needs. For me, with all my hours of research.... this was the "BEST" choice, hands down. I'm extremly happy with my F-150 and enjoy it to the fullest. Just to show you how popular this truck is.... no joke. Riding home from work yesterday, I passed a reg. cab flareside F-150 and 5 minutes later in the drive I was hooked-up in a line of 3 F-150's, me being the 4th truck. How's that for a best selling truck! Can you say that about the "Tundra". I know my decision was the right one for me hope you come up with the right choice for you. Good Luck....

P.S. Thought everyone would enjoy hearing some good solid facts about the F-150, if they didn't already know.... take care and smile!


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2000 F-150 Lariat 4x2 SB,SC,Styleside,Amazon Green/Clearcoat Metallic,5.4 Liter V8, Class III Tow-Package,3.55 Limited Slip Rear,Bug Deflector,Duraliner Bedliner,Superchip,K&N Filter.

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Thanks for the Tundra URL UtahBrian!

Reading through that made me realize that not only is the Tundra a "first year" vehical but more worrisome, it is coming from a "first year" factory.

The posts there have made me think the reliability is probably better with the Ford after all.

For more insight go to http://www.nhtsa.gov and look for model year 2000 complaints on the two brands. About equal but keep in mind there are five or so F-150s sold for every Tundra so percentage wise there are five or so times the complaints on the new Tundra. Not what I expected at all!

Thanks for the thread UB! I am closer than ever to chosing the Ford.

Enjoy,

Bill

For a hoot look at all the complaints on the new Chevys. What a horrid piece of excrement!

 

I wonder if this sounds stupid: When I look at older Toyota or Nissan trucks and compair them to older Fords. The imports look cheap and well not as good as the Ford. So IMO in 5 to 10 years you'll look at the Toyota and wonder why you almost bought that

But looks are subjective and this is my opinion, so...

 

Forgot to mention that I have since found out that there is NO lift kit or limited slip/locker solutions for the Tundra.

Ford lift kits are about $1,500 for four inches and LSD is a factory option.

Enjoy,

Bill

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The Tundra is a nice truck..not quite a full size...and currently only offered with a 4.7L engine. I looked at one before I ordered my 2000 F-150, but the cab seemed slightly smaller...and I DID NOT like the shallow cargo bed!
I also do not like the grill...it looks cheap!
The Tundra 4.7L engine uses belts instead of a timing chain..so they will have to be replaced every 60,000 miles (chain good for 'life').
The price was way too much..for what you get vs the F-150.
First year model....even though it is a Toyota..it is wise to give them a model year to make sure the bugs are out of the truck.

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2000 F-150 XLT, 4x2, 5.4L Supercab, Styleside, Black with silver two-tone, 3.55, class III towing package with heavy duty cooling package, 4 wheel disk ABS, overhead console, sliding rear window, keyless entry, dark graphite interior, in dash CD, Pendaliner bedliner, K&N air filter, rubberized undercoating, cabin filtration system, Bugflector II, 5W-30 Mobil 1, engine build 10/4/99

 

UtahBrian, listen to Toadman! First off you are on an enthusiast site for F-150's and FORD trucks. You probably will not get an unbiased opinion. It is your money and you have to live with whatever you buy. Both trucks have strong points and weak points. Purchase the one that most fits YOUR needs.
Jeff

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1999 F150 Lariat
Reg cab Short box Styleside
5.4L 3.55ls
Deep Wedgwood Blue/Silver
Lund Interceptor hood shield, VentVisors, Class III hitch, Ford molded mud guards, soft tonneau, factory CD with changer (thanks Dusty), tinted windows, Factory fog light kit

Menasha, WI

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Brian- My advice after driving sixty thousand dollars worth of Ford's best efforts at quality control in the last two years(see below)is to buy the Toyota. It's hard to imagine that their customer support could be any worse than Ford's... I've been waiting for four months for someone to reply to my notarized, certified mail/return receipt complaint which the Customer Assistance Center received in November.

Even without considering the company's apparent policy of ignoring customers with concerns, one only has to look at the list of problems on my 99 and 98 Fords to see that one year of consumer testing is not long enough for this company to correct the manufacturing "issues" of a new model year.

Sure, you can find just as many problems with the Chevy trucks if you talk to enough owners. All I'm saying is that my second Ford in as many years was just good money after bad. I can't imagine why anyone would subject themselves to this kind of treatment when other brands are available. After owning five Ford trucks during the last 19 years, I have to say I've bought my last.

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Ex-99 F150SC 4x4 ORP 5.4/3.73 Leaky Clunker
Now-98 Expedition 4x4 XLT
5.4/3.73 Slapper

 

Hey leakclunksplat,
My question to you is.... why have you had 5 Fords for the past 19 years? I'm sure there's a reason for that.... do tell, please????
IMHO, everything in the world made by man is going to have problems. "Why", are you all of a sudden going to indorse Toyota? Doesn't sound like you have the same "19 years experience" with them.
That's an awful lot of time with a company to, just drop them and endorse another one.
I'm sure you have your own reasons, new job....new Toyota dealer....etc. It just sounds odd to me, bashing the F-150 after owning one for 19 years.

Good luck with your ventures in Toyota. I'm staying here with the best selling truck for the last 21 plus years. You being a part of 19 of them.... go figure. A new wake up call all of a sudden?
Just remember to look around you, when you see "thousands" of F-150's and think to yourself.... hmmm, everyone couldn't be wrong. Compaired to seeing 1 or 2 Tundra's on the road anually.

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2000 F-150 Lariat 4x2 Supercab, Styleside,SB,Amazon Green/Clearcoat Metallic,5.4 Liter V8, Class III Tow-Package,3.55 Limited Slip Rear,Bug Deflector, Duraliner Bedliner,Superchip,K&N Filter, Fumoto Oil Drain Valve.



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the plain and simple answere to that question is the fact that it is not AMERICAN made. Also everyone knows that there is no substitute for the F-150. that is why it is the number one selling pickup.

If you did buy one you would not be enjoying this site because it ain't a ford.

can not believe someone would even think of that, Are you sure you are a true FORD lover?

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TAZMAN
2000 F-150 XLT Ext. Cab.4.2L V6 5 speed manual,3.55 gear 4X2 Toreado Red,Tinted windows,Flowmaster Dual Exaust. K&N filter, Two 10'' Kickers w/4 channel Kowler amp under back seat.



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An adult sure doesn't fit in the back of a Tundra. I don't know what RMP's they run, but with the 4:11 rearend it must be high.

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99' F-150 XLT SC 4X4 ORP LS 4.6L - K&N Air Filter & Custom 3" Intake from fender to TB, Superchip, PowerAid, ASP Pulleys, Rapidflow 3" single CatBack exhaust, Fluidyne Trany cooler, A.R.E. Cover, Duraliner bed liner & Mobil1 5W-30.