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russo2 01-25-2011 10:12 PM

Starter.
 
So every once in awhile, though it is getting more frequent than not now, my starter just kind of doesn't work.
It really sounds like the starter is spinning but the appendix isn't coming out to contact the flywheel, is this possible?
If that is the case can it be rebuilt or am I looking at a new starter type of cost.
Oh and every time this happens if I let the starter stop spinning and hit the key it fires up in an instant, faster than just a regular start.
Thanks for any help guys.

masseyman 01-25-2011 10:29 PM

You need to replace the starter drive. It is easy to do if you know how to do it. About ten to fifteen dollars for the drive, many times it is called the bendix. It's not available from Ford, but many auto parts stores will have it available.

russo2 01-25-2011 10:33 PM

So it is just the like 16 dollar rebuild kit LMC offers, although I am going to tear down the starter and make sure everything else is good too. I have quick access to an expert starter re-builder and parts so it shouldn't be too bad.
Thanks massey.

masseyman 01-25-2011 11:00 PM

This is just one piece, no kit to it. It contains the gear at the back of starter that meshs with the flywheel. I have replaced this piece, and this piece only, on many starters, doing nothing else but lubricating a couple spots. With 100% success.

russo2 01-25-2011 11:26 PM

Sounds good. I'll order one into advanced then.

Steve83 01-26-2011 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by russo2 (Post 4473768)
...the appendix isn't coming out...

It's "Bendix". ;) Check the lower R of this diagram:

https://www.supermotors.net/getfile/...erexploded.jpg

adrianspeeder 01-26-2011 09:42 PM

Not sure where you are at in PA, but where I grew up there were enough hills to pop a clutch for when the "appendix" doesn't bendix anymore.

Adrianspeeder

russo2 01-26-2011 11:27 PM

Appendix bendix, pish posh. I'm a med student not a mechanic haha.
But yeah there are plenty of hill to pop a clutch and lots of other truck to gimme a rollin start if needed.
For the first time today it did the little whirring twice in a row. Guess I'll be taking the starter off here soon.

Steve83 01-27-2011 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by russo2 (Post 4475233)
Appendix bendix, pish posh. I'm a med student...

...and you don't know the difference between an appendix & a truck part?!?!?!?! :eek:

russo2 01-27-2011 12:17 AM

I said a med student not a doctor duhh :o
I just got the words a little confused.

jgger 01-27-2011 12:51 AM

Russo, this is probably a delayed issue from the swim test. It is probably full of junk too.

But ya you probably need a new spandex too ! :D

masseyman 01-27-2011 01:08 AM

One note of caution when you take the starter apart, make sure the armature(the long shaft that runs all the way through the starter with windings on the front) stays against the front of the housing. If the armature comes back a little ways and it slips out of the brushes it's a real fun time getting it back in the brushes. You would probably need to gain access to that expert starter rebuilder you mentioned.

russo2 01-27-2011 10:03 AM

The spandex! I completely forgot about the spandex! I'll change that out immedietly, must of lost it's stretch!
But seriously it took 4 tried to get it to start this morning so saturday it's coming out.
I forgot about the 'swim test' and I think I failed that one.
I really think it's from the ignition sticking open and the new flywheel maybe.
I watched a video on rebuilding these starters and that armature does not look like fun. But if it is full of the good stuff like the horns and intake and tb were it might need to come apart anyway.

russo2 01-28-2011 10:24 PM

It seems this part is harder to come by than I expected, at least without ordering online. So I hit up the rock auto Index while wearing my spandex to find the bendix in their appendix.
Sorry for the Dr. Suess moment it just seemed right. But I did order the bendix from rock auto last night, ordered this http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=42475
9 bucks for the part and 6 for shipping. Not too bad in my opinion.
I also looked it up and the starter in my truck was rebuilt in june of 08 so it was either a bad rebuild or something I did destroyed it.

glc 01-30-2011 07:15 PM


something I did destroyed it.
I just might put money on that.......... :D

russo2 01-30-2011 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by glc (Post 4479302)
I just might put money on that.......... :D

Hey now what's that supposed to mean :o hahah
The tracking of shipment still says it's in texas, I'm just hoping it doesn't take long from there. Starter is holding out so far though.

russo2 02-05-2011 08:48 PM

Just in case anyone cares I got the starter rebuilt today. All went well for having absolutely no idea what I was even doing. It turned out to be the easiest thing I've done to the truck yet. I did end up pulling the armature out, but it wasn't too terribly bad to get back in. All in all it was a good success and saved me a bunch of money.
Thanks for the help guys.

StrangeRanger 02-05-2011 08:59 PM

Are you going to autotopsy the starter to determine the cause of death?

russo2 02-05-2011 09:04 PM

I didn't find anything wrong with it. It was clean inside. The old bendix gear spun freely the opposite way of locking it and the new bendix gear spinds that way but not very easily. Not sure if that really means anything or not.
My dad told me his old 95 250 did this same thing every 2 years and he just replaced the bendix every time as well. He also said there was a guy with the same truck that came to a garage that he worked at and his starters were getting destroyed due to a bad ground, I'm checking that tomorrow.
A bendix every couple of years doesn't bother me, my dads new 250 has gone through a starter every 2 years years since it was bought in 2003, and those starters are nearly 200 bucks.. take that for what it's worth.

Steve83 02-06-2011 02:03 AM

Sounds like you inherited your dad's tendency to hold the key in START for a little too long! ;)

russo2 02-06-2011 02:10 AM

Damn you dad. I really don't think I do, may be though.
I'll let you know in 2 years haha.
I'm pretty proud of myself though for once again fixing something with only a very vague idea of what I'm doing.
Redneck ingenuity :thumbsup:


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