1993 F150 miss fire mystery !!!!!
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1993 F150 miss fire mystery !!!!!
My 93 f150 5.0 4x4 automatic misfires through the air box and stumbles when accelerating or under a load. even if i am cruising at 40 mph and back off the gas for just a minute as soon as I get back on the gas it will stumble and then clear out. In the morning when cold it will start and then stall immediately, it starts right back up and stumbles idling funky for about a minute or two before leveling out to a somewhat decent idle. As soon as I hit the gas to pull out of my driveway it will stumble, pop through the air box and take off. Sometimes It will run as if a cylinder is dead and then clear out. I put a new fuel pump in the mid ship tank that went bad but made no difference. I also put in a new map sensor that went, ignition coil, plugs, wires, cap and rotor within the past month. I have a manual and checked the EGR valve, the new map, iac and tps all seem to be working.I keep checking for codes and keep coming up with nothing. The truck it self has over 200000 miles on it and supposedly has a rebuilt motor in it. It does not smoke, burn or lose any oil between changes, and when I changed the plugs they were all in great shape and looked as if they were burning identically. Any help would be great. I really like the truck and would hate to get rid of it.
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Do a dry, followed by a wet compression test. What octane do you use? Check your manual, the proper wire routing should be illustrated.
Last edited by ymeski; 12-02-2009 at 07:02 PM.
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I am running regular, and I will do a compression test as soon as I can. I never thought to do one. Since the truck doesn't smoke or burn any oil and the plugs are clean with no carbon or oil build up and burning the same every time I change them I just assumed that the compression was fine. Does that make sense? But I am definitely going to do one, It only makes sense the more I think about it. I also rerouted the wires properly today and unfortunately it made no difference.
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My first thought would be a hanging or poorly atomizing injector(s). A look at the plugs may or may not identify the offending cylinder depending on the level of intermittence. If you do identify which one, I've had bad plug wires out of the box. Then there's the possibility of cracking the insulator on a spark plug during installation.
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Definitely! 2 "Hail Mary's" & a bottle of "Lucas" Injection cleaner wouldn't hurt if it is injector related. There's an injector cleaner that screws to the fuel rail where you would normally check fuel pressure that work very well, but I have yet to find the stuff. Also the reason i asked about octane is because a "stock" engine w/stock base timing will become poisoned w/ long term use of higher octanes as they are only engineered for 87 octane being a low compression rate engine. Constant incomplete burned fuel residual, Carbons up the combustion chamber surfaces. Then the build up begins to wick fuel introduced into the cylinder and uncontrolled detonations occur. The same thing occurs when a plug isn't firing on a consistent basis, but only to that cylinder. Another possibility is accidentally altering a plugs gap or contamination w/surface muck, during installation. When doing the wet compression test on below normal cylinders, if the compression bleeds down slowly implies rings. Quickly implies a valve problem. A can of "Seafoam" introduced through the air intake via the brake booster Vac hose at idle & norm. operating temp. will take care of combustion chamber build up. After introducing the can's contents, shut the engine off for 15 minutes, then restart and rev the engine till the truck reappears from the smoke cloud, then take it for an aggressive drive.
Last edited by ymeski; 12-03-2009 at 11:31 AM.