f150 7700 series
#91
#93
OK, I am a new owner of a 7700 series. I found a set of wheels and they are headed this way. Now the next question is what size lug nuts do I need to find so I am ready when they arrive? I see there are common ones of 14x2 and also 9/16th...any ideas which size would I need?
Great site and thread BTW...
Great site and thread BTW...
#94
OK, I am a new owner of a 7700 series. I found a set of wheels and they are headed this way. Now the next question is what size lug nuts do I need to find so I am ready when they arrive? I see there are common ones of 14x2 and also 9/16th...any ideas which size would I need?
Great site and thread BTW...
Great site and thread BTW...
for our style 12x1.75
#95
if anyone is looking for stock ones these are the only new ones i was able to find
http://www.originalwheels.com/ford-w...ksf150rims.php pick year and 7 lugs1/2 way down page
http://www.originalwheels.com/ford-w...ksf150rims.php pick year and 7 lugs1/2 way down page
#96
#97
7 Lugs
If you can get your hands on a 7700, jump! By far the best F series I've owned! It should have the Sterling 10.25" rearend, 4R100 tranny mated to the 5.4. All the big auto parts stores DO NOT list a 2000 F150 7700 but everything is the same as a 1999 F250 PICKUP, notice PICKUP not 1999 SUPERDUTY or LIGHTDUTY. Can you tell I've had to buy parts before. Good luck on finding a nice 7 lug rim!
I've noticed since buying my 7700 that lots of the Econoline E series have 7 Lug wheels.
I would think they should fit the 7700.
#98
The 7700 F150 The Mystery Explained.
Qualifiers: This is what I have found, after extensive research at Ford, blogs too numerous to count, sale ads, VIN interpreters, etc. Basically, the Internet. I have not been able to get my hands on an actual 7700 F150 to verify any of this. What follows is what I conclude after all my research. Many may assert other than what I do here; please support your argument and I will make changes as necessary - I hope to build this document into an accurate source. I’m not trying to convince anybody of anything, and I'm certainly not claiming expertise; I’m sharing what I learned because it was a PITA finding all this and I hope to at least offer a head-start to anybody else interested in this vehicle. FWIW, the actual research findings run to 11 pages. None of this is my own work, I have stolen from smarter people. The only value I've added is to winnow out errors (I hope) and collect it all here.
Bottom Line: The 7700 optioned F150 is not, as, many claim, an F150 with various F250 components, such as suspension, and/or transmission, and/or brakes, etc. The 7700 F150 is not the “Heritage” or “Heritage Edition” truck.
The 7700 optioned F150 is an F250LD badged as an F150 – I have read that it is the pre-99 F250LD (there is much confusion over the actual production/model years on this point). The only difference I have been able to find is that the actual F250 of that generation is available with a 10.5” axle, whereas the 7700 comes with a 10.25” axle. The VIN 4th digit is a P. The option code might be 627.
There is another difference in the 4x4 model - the 4x4 7700 F150 has an independent front suspension, not a solid front axle; available with either the manual or electronic transfer case. I have not been able to nail this down; that is, I know the 7700 4x4 is an IFS, I am not certain of the F250LD.
As such, the F150 7700 differs from a non-7700 F150 as follows:
• Larger (13.5”) front brakes
• Bigger bore master cylinder
• Stiffer front and rear suspension (only the 4x4 is factory rated for a plow) – extra leaf in back, larger torsion bars, HD shocks
• 10.25" Visteon (built in Sterling) rear w/ 3.73 gears (4.10s were a 2nd option from '02-'04). There are apparently two versions of this axle, with the second generation being more desirable because it has longer splines on the pinion shaft, and a bigger yoke. Some of these are semi-floating; I have not been able to learn more about this.
• Thicker/stiffer box frame
• Heavier 7 lug steel wheels with load rating "D" tires mounted on them
• 4R70W / 4R100 AT (NOTE: the 4R100 is much the preferred AT for this vehicle)
• Larger AT cooler
• Super Engine Cooling (bigger radiator), HD battery/ALT (according to someone else (SKREWD - he owns one) on this forum, it also comes with a PS cooler).
• The 7700 4x2 138.5" WB truck (long bed, regular cab) had a factory payload rating of 3220 lbs., but after subtracting passengers, gas, etc., the effective payload is about 2300 lbs.
The “7700” option for the F150 was available from 2000 – 2003, with what I believe are “leftover” factory equipped CNG equipped trucks sold into 2004 as ’04 models, though they were not actual ’04 models. The CNG package reduces the GVW to 7650 lbs.
NOTE: if the wheels do not have 7 lugs, it is not a 7700 option. FWIW, I believe the rotor swept area is the same as the Lightning.
A confusing factor is that the “7700” refers to the GVW, not the towing capacity. There appears to be a 7700 lb. towing package that many confuse for the 7700 GVW option. If such a towing package exists, they are not the same. Again, 7700 is the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) rating, not towing capacity, not payload, and not Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating (GCVWR). This is a great truck, but it's not going to carry over 3 and a half tons of payload in the back.
I believe the towing capacity is 8600 lbs. NOTE: If the GCVWR (truck, payload, and trailer) is 11,500 lbs, and the towing capacity is 8600, then when towing a fully loaded trailer the truck with any payload can't exceed 2900 lbs... which I doubt. Any info on this point would be appreciated.
I believe this truck is available only with the 2V 5.4L (260HP/350 lb-ft), and the regular cab or SuperCab option. I have found many trucks claiming to be 4 door quad cab 7700’s, but on closer examination of available photo’s, etc., they turn out not to be 7700 trucks. Likewise, the Lariat option – I do not believe that was available with the 7700, though that may not hold true in Canada. I believe many more of these were sold in Canada than in the US. It was available in Mexico as an F250 or Lobo.
Why should anybody buy one? Because, since they are neither well known, nor well understood, they are priced lower than comparable F250s. So, if you intend to buy an F250 of that Ford truck model generation, you should certainly include the 7700 F150 in your search.
PS: ignore my signature, that truck is gone. I'm looking for a 7700, or an F250 or a third option I won't name because it upsets some people.
Qualifiers: This is what I have found, after extensive research at Ford, blogs too numerous to count, sale ads, VIN interpreters, etc. Basically, the Internet. I have not been able to get my hands on an actual 7700 F150 to verify any of this. What follows is what I conclude after all my research. Many may assert other than what I do here; please support your argument and I will make changes as necessary - I hope to build this document into an accurate source. I’m not trying to convince anybody of anything, and I'm certainly not claiming expertise; I’m sharing what I learned because it was a PITA finding all this and I hope to at least offer a head-start to anybody else interested in this vehicle. FWIW, the actual research findings run to 11 pages. None of this is my own work, I have stolen from smarter people. The only value I've added is to winnow out errors (I hope) and collect it all here.
Bottom Line: The 7700 optioned F150 is not, as, many claim, an F150 with various F250 components, such as suspension, and/or transmission, and/or brakes, etc. The 7700 F150 is not the “Heritage” or “Heritage Edition” truck.
The 7700 optioned F150 is an F250LD badged as an F150 – I have read that it is the pre-99 F250LD (there is much confusion over the actual production/model years on this point). The only difference I have been able to find is that the actual F250 of that generation is available with a 10.5” axle, whereas the 7700 comes with a 10.25” axle. The VIN 4th digit is a P. The option code might be 627.
There is another difference in the 4x4 model - the 4x4 7700 F150 has an independent front suspension, not a solid front axle; available with either the manual or electronic transfer case. I have not been able to nail this down; that is, I know the 7700 4x4 is an IFS, I am not certain of the F250LD.
As such, the F150 7700 differs from a non-7700 F150 as follows:
• Larger (13.5”) front brakes
• Bigger bore master cylinder
• Stiffer front and rear suspension (only the 4x4 is factory rated for a plow) – extra leaf in back, larger torsion bars, HD shocks
• 10.25" Visteon (built in Sterling) rear w/ 3.73 gears (4.10s were a 2nd option from '02-'04). There are apparently two versions of this axle, with the second generation being more desirable because it has longer splines on the pinion shaft, and a bigger yoke. Some of these are semi-floating; I have not been able to learn more about this.
• Thicker/stiffer box frame
• Heavier 7 lug steel wheels with load rating "D" tires mounted on them
• 4R70W / 4R100 AT (NOTE: the 4R100 is much the preferred AT for this vehicle)
• Larger AT cooler
• Super Engine Cooling (bigger radiator), HD battery/ALT (according to someone else (SKREWD - he owns one) on this forum, it also comes with a PS cooler).
• The 7700 4x2 138.5" WB truck (long bed, regular cab) had a factory payload rating of 3220 lbs., but after subtracting passengers, gas, etc., the effective payload is about 2300 lbs.
The “7700” option for the F150 was available from 2000 – 2003, with what I believe are “leftover” factory equipped CNG equipped trucks sold into 2004 as ’04 models, though they were not actual ’04 models. The CNG package reduces the GVW to 7650 lbs.
NOTE: if the wheels do not have 7 lugs, it is not a 7700 option. FWIW, I believe the rotor swept area is the same as the Lightning.
A confusing factor is that the “7700” refers to the GVW, not the towing capacity. There appears to be a 7700 lb. towing package that many confuse for the 7700 GVW option. If such a towing package exists, they are not the same. Again, 7700 is the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) rating, not towing capacity, not payload, and not Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating (GCVWR). This is a great truck, but it's not going to carry over 3 and a half tons of payload in the back.
I believe the towing capacity is 8600 lbs. NOTE: If the GCVWR (truck, payload, and trailer) is 11,500 lbs, and the towing capacity is 8600, then when towing a fully loaded trailer the truck with any payload can't exceed 2900 lbs... which I doubt. Any info on this point would be appreciated.
I believe this truck is available only with the 2V 5.4L (260HP/350 lb-ft), and the regular cab or SuperCab option. I have found many trucks claiming to be 4 door quad cab 7700’s, but on closer examination of available photo’s, etc., they turn out not to be 7700 trucks. Likewise, the Lariat option – I do not believe that was available with the 7700, though that may not hold true in Canada. I believe many more of these were sold in Canada than in the US. It was available in Mexico as an F250 or Lobo.
Why should anybody buy one? Because, since they are neither well known, nor well understood, they are priced lower than comparable F250s. So, if you intend to buy an F250 of that Ford truck model generation, you should certainly include the 7700 F150 in your search.
PS: ignore my signature, that truck is gone. I'm looking for a 7700, or an F250 or a third option I won't name because it upsets some people.
Last edited by Joethefordguy; 08-23-2014 at 11:49 AM. Reason: I can't spell.
#99
#100
Couple of things I can validate as I bought my 7700 extended cab 4x4 new. Mine is a lariat edition. I also have window sheet to validate it. The 4.10 rear option is only available in 2 wheel drive. . No semi floating rear in 7700 or 250 ld.
The ld fe is same as f150, and 7700.
The ld fe is same as f150, and 7700.
The 7700 F150 The Mystery Explained.
Qualifiers: This is what I have found, after extensive research at Ford, blogs too numerous to count, sale ads, VIN interpreters, etc. Basically, the Internet. I have not been able to get my hands on an actual 7700 F150 to verify any of this. What follows is what I conclude after all my research. Many may assert other than what I do here; please support your argument and I will make changes as necessary - I hope to build this document into an accurate source. Im not trying to convince anybody of anything, and I'm certainly not claiming expertise; Im sharing what I learned because it was a PITA finding all this and I hope to at least offer a head-start to anybody else interested in this vehicle. FWIW, the actual research findings run to 11 pages. None of this is my own work, I have stolen from smarter people. The only value I've added is to winnow out errors (I hope) and collect it all here.
Bottom Line: The 7700 optioned F150 is not, as, many claim, an F150 with various F250 components, such as suspension, and/or transmission, and/or brakes, etc. The 7700 F150 is not the Heritage or Heritage Edition truck.
The 7700 optioned F150 is an F250LD badged as an F150 I have read that it is the pre-99 F250LD (there is much confusion over the actual production/model years on this point). The only difference I have been able to find is that the actual F250 of that generation is available with a 10.5 axle, whereas the 7700 comes with a 10.25 axle. The VIN 4th digit is a P. The option code might be 627.
There is another difference in the 4x4 model - the 4x4 7700 F150 has an independent front suspension, not a solid front axle; available with either the manual or electronic transfer case. I have not been able to nail this down; that is, I know the 7700 4x4 is an IFS, I am not certain of the F250LD.
As such, the F150 7700 differs from a non-7700 F150 as follows:
Larger (13.5) front brakes
Bigger bore master cylinder
Stiffer front and rear suspension (only the 4x4 is factory rated for a plow) extra leaf in back, larger torsion bars, HD shocks
10.25" Visteon (built in Sterling) rear w/ 3.73 gears (4.10s were a 2nd option from '02-'04). There are apparently two versions of this axle, with the second generation being more desirable because it has longer splines on the pinion shaft, and a bigger yoke. Some of these are semi-floating; I have not been able to learn more about this.
Thicker/stiffer box frame
Heavier 7 lug steel wheels with load rating "D" tires mounted on them
4R70W / 4R100 AT (NOTE: the 4R100 is much the preferred AT for this vehicle)
Larger AT cooler
Super Engine Cooling (bigger radiator), HD battery/ALT (according to someone else (SKREWD - he owns one) on this forum, it also comes with a PS cooler).
The 7700 4x2 138.5" WB truck (long bed, regular cab) had a factory payload rating of 3220 lbs., but after subtracting passengers, gas, etc., the effective payload is about 2300 lbs.
The 7700 option for the F150 was available from 2000 2003, with what I believe are leftover factory equipped CNG equipped trucks sold into 2004 as 04 models, though they were not actual 04 models. The CNG package reduces the GVW to 7650 lbs.
NOTE: if the wheels do not have 7 lugs, it is not a 7700 option. FWIW, I believe the rotor swept area is the same as the Lightning.
A confusing factor is that the 7700 refers to the GVW, not the towing capacity. There appears to be a 7700 lb. towing package that many confuse for the 7700 GVW option. If such a towing package exists, they are not the same. Again, 7700 is the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) rating, not towing capacity, not payload, and not Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating (GCVWR). This is a great truck, but it's not going to carry over 3 and a half tons of payload in the back.
I believe the towing capacity is 8600 lbs. NOTE: If the GCVWR (truck, payload, and trailer) is 11,500 lbs, and the towing capacity is 8600, then when towing a fully loaded trailer the truck with any payload can't exceed 2900 lbs... which I doubt. Any info on this point would be appreciated.
I believe this truck is available only with the 2V 5.4L (260HP/350 lb-ft), and the regular cab or SuperCab option. I have found many trucks claiming to be 4 door quad cab 7700s, but on closer examination of available photos, etc., they turn out not to be 7700 trucks. Likewise, the Lariat option I do not believe that was available with the 7700, though that may not hold true in Canada. I believe many more of these were sold in Canada than in the US. It was available in Mexico as an F250 or Lobo.
Why should anybody buy one? Because, since they are neither well known, nor well understood, they are priced lower than comparable F250s. So, if you intend to buy an F250 of that Ford truck model generation, you should certainly include the 7700 F150 in your search.
PS: ignore my signature, that truck is gone. I'm looking for a 7700, or an F250 or a third option I won't name because it upsets some people.
Qualifiers: This is what I have found, after extensive research at Ford, blogs too numerous to count, sale ads, VIN interpreters, etc. Basically, the Internet. I have not been able to get my hands on an actual 7700 F150 to verify any of this. What follows is what I conclude after all my research. Many may assert other than what I do here; please support your argument and I will make changes as necessary - I hope to build this document into an accurate source. Im not trying to convince anybody of anything, and I'm certainly not claiming expertise; Im sharing what I learned because it was a PITA finding all this and I hope to at least offer a head-start to anybody else interested in this vehicle. FWIW, the actual research findings run to 11 pages. None of this is my own work, I have stolen from smarter people. The only value I've added is to winnow out errors (I hope) and collect it all here.
Bottom Line: The 7700 optioned F150 is not, as, many claim, an F150 with various F250 components, such as suspension, and/or transmission, and/or brakes, etc. The 7700 F150 is not the Heritage or Heritage Edition truck.
The 7700 optioned F150 is an F250LD badged as an F150 I have read that it is the pre-99 F250LD (there is much confusion over the actual production/model years on this point). The only difference I have been able to find is that the actual F250 of that generation is available with a 10.5 axle, whereas the 7700 comes with a 10.25 axle. The VIN 4th digit is a P. The option code might be 627.
There is another difference in the 4x4 model - the 4x4 7700 F150 has an independent front suspension, not a solid front axle; available with either the manual or electronic transfer case. I have not been able to nail this down; that is, I know the 7700 4x4 is an IFS, I am not certain of the F250LD.
As such, the F150 7700 differs from a non-7700 F150 as follows:
Larger (13.5) front brakes
Bigger bore master cylinder
Stiffer front and rear suspension (only the 4x4 is factory rated for a plow) extra leaf in back, larger torsion bars, HD shocks
10.25" Visteon (built in Sterling) rear w/ 3.73 gears (4.10s were a 2nd option from '02-'04). There are apparently two versions of this axle, with the second generation being more desirable because it has longer splines on the pinion shaft, and a bigger yoke. Some of these are semi-floating; I have not been able to learn more about this.
Thicker/stiffer box frame
Heavier 7 lug steel wheels with load rating "D" tires mounted on them
4R70W / 4R100 AT (NOTE: the 4R100 is much the preferred AT for this vehicle)
Larger AT cooler
Super Engine Cooling (bigger radiator), HD battery/ALT (according to someone else (SKREWD - he owns one) on this forum, it also comes with a PS cooler).
The 7700 4x2 138.5" WB truck (long bed, regular cab) had a factory payload rating of 3220 lbs., but after subtracting passengers, gas, etc., the effective payload is about 2300 lbs.
The 7700 option for the F150 was available from 2000 2003, with what I believe are leftover factory equipped CNG equipped trucks sold into 2004 as 04 models, though they were not actual 04 models. The CNG package reduces the GVW to 7650 lbs.
NOTE: if the wheels do not have 7 lugs, it is not a 7700 option. FWIW, I believe the rotor swept area is the same as the Lightning.
A confusing factor is that the 7700 refers to the GVW, not the towing capacity. There appears to be a 7700 lb. towing package that many confuse for the 7700 GVW option. If such a towing package exists, they are not the same. Again, 7700 is the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) rating, not towing capacity, not payload, and not Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating (GCVWR). This is a great truck, but it's not going to carry over 3 and a half tons of payload in the back.
I believe the towing capacity is 8600 lbs. NOTE: If the GCVWR (truck, payload, and trailer) is 11,500 lbs, and the towing capacity is 8600, then when towing a fully loaded trailer the truck with any payload can't exceed 2900 lbs... which I doubt. Any info on this point would be appreciated.
I believe this truck is available only with the 2V 5.4L (260HP/350 lb-ft), and the regular cab or SuperCab option. I have found many trucks claiming to be 4 door quad cab 7700s, but on closer examination of available photos, etc., they turn out not to be 7700 trucks. Likewise, the Lariat option I do not believe that was available with the 7700, though that may not hold true in Canada. I believe many more of these were sold in Canada than in the US. It was available in Mexico as an F250 or Lobo.
Why should anybody buy one? Because, since they are neither well known, nor well understood, they are priced lower than comparable F250s. So, if you intend to buy an F250 of that Ford truck model generation, you should certainly include the 7700 F150 in your search.
PS: ignore my signature, that truck is gone. I'm looking for a 7700, or an F250 or a third option I won't name because it upsets some people.
#102
just picked up a 2000 model F150 7700 4x4 in pretty good shape 177,000 miles it was an ex division of forestry vehicle. I bought it as an extra vehicle and my daughter has taken ownership of it for now. Finally drove it a little bit and even though I am a Chevy guy (who drives a Jeep) I really like it so far.
#103
That in f o about the04 cng really cleared up a mystery for me. I just got an 04 bi fuel 7700 at auction from texas dot. (Txdot work trucks.) red reflective stripes on the tailgate. one 2wd one 4wd. 206000miles on both. The4wd is an o2. They are really dirty but im cleaning them. Ill sell one but dont know which. I drove the 1st back from lubbock 700 miles and no problems. Handles very lightly. Going back for the other soon. Glad to hear and i appreciate that invaluable info you dug up.