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WhiteLightninSVTGirl Apr 22, 2000 05:08 PM

TERRIBLE day at the track...I'm a wreck
 
*Sigh*

Where to start...

In Sept. I ran the truck and pulled a 13.56@101 with Comp T/As on a stock new motor...

So explain to my why today...slight tailwind, 62 degrees, perfect day...dare I say it? 15.2 on the first run 15.1 on the second....Something is wrong here boys. https://www.f150online.com/f150board/frown.gif Only diff was the air filter kit *please don't ask if it is hooked up wrong* and I happened to be on the F1s. I will be happy when I get my chip in *Sal, checks in the mail* and I get my tires and wheels on, but even so....F1s may take a little bit to hook but not a whole damn sec and a half...Ya know. She seemed to catch third and even out almost at a lag, does that make sense? Anybody wanna give a dog a bone here and tell me that might be happening?

Only cool thing was I got to meet Eric today.

CA https://www.f150online.com/f150board/frown.gif

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Peter B Apr 22, 2000 05:17 PM

CA,
Check if you put the filter in correct-he he, I just had to do that since you asked us not to say that.
Something seems completely wrong. But what the heck could cause that type of differential in ET's.
Couple of questions:
What tire pressure were you running?
How bad did you spin off the line?
What were your 60' times?
Your 13.56 time on a stock new motor, does that mean not broken in yet and zero mods?

noelvm Apr 22, 2000 05:26 PM

Prower braking? Don't on F-1s. Flooring it from the lights? Not recommended by Dr Noel. Even so you should have managed a low 14. Sure you running diesel? https://www.f150online.com/f150board/biggrin.gif https://www.f150online.com/f150board/biggrin.gif https://www.f150online.com/f150board/biggrin.gif
noelvm

AtomHeart Apr 22, 2000 05:35 PM

What CA forgot to mention is that a C-5 Vette there today was running 15.3, 15.5, 15.7. Not in that order, but you get the point....New LS1 SS Camaro: 14.9. New LS1 T/A: 14.9. You and I were running right were we should have been running CA. https://www.f150online.com/f150board/smile.gif The track just had NO traction and the barametric pressure was freakin cuz of that storm moving in. Everyone ran slow, dont feel bad. Just compare your times RELATIVE to everyone else. I only got 1 run, my first run of my life, and I ran 15.2. That's faster than ANYTHING that black C-5 Vette ran all day...he ran 3 runs.

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2000 Silver Lightnin'
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4D THNDR Apr 22, 2000 05:43 PM

Stock "new" motor? Now using your womanly ways to get new fog lamps is one thing...but a new motor???

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Adopted 4/19/00,
PSP Filter,
Track time pending...


2000Silverbulletonorder Apr 22, 2000 06:01 PM

You ran 13.56@101 at the same track last year?


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98_SVT_COBRA Apr 22, 2000 06:28 PM

I think you just found out how much performance can suffer from high altitudes. What track were you at? I can look up the elevations.

Bill Murray Apr 22, 2000 06:39 PM

Hi Gang:

Just a thought. Most of the better performance oriented magazines use a correction factor for altitude, and perhaps also barometric pressure. Don't have an article to hand, but I recall it could make quite a difference.
As AtomHeart mentioned, if the Vettes were running the times you stated, they obviously had the same problem with altitude/pressure.

In other words, you done good, gal, just hope for better weather. I gather it is very important at your altitude.

Bill Murray

WhiteLightninSVTGirl Apr 22, 2000 07:08 PM

Okay here ya go....

Temp. 55
Rel Humid 48
Barom 23.38

R/T 4.45
60 2.199
330 6.320
1/8 9.715
MPH 72.78
1000 12.635
1/4 15.127 https://www.f150online.com/f150board/frown.gif
MPH 90.59

Pete
Don't make me poke your eye out https://www.f150online.com/f150board/smile.gif

Noel
Little power braking, I was still trying to get my seat belt fastened on the first run when my lights dropped. DOH hehe my R/T was a .737 on the first run, I redlighted on the second, to top of a lovely day of racing.

Eric
You're right I really didn't pay attention to what the other guys were running. Makes it a little bit better.

2000,
Same track.

98,
Yeah we have had this elevation discussion before and had I not run like the big dog that I am *hehe* before I would not be so upset, but....

Bill,
Thanks https://www.f150online.com/f150board/smile.gif Just not what I was expecting from the day, little disappointed, not in my truck at all you understand. She and I had a long talk on the way home and she knows I still love her. HEHE

And 4D,
Not quite sure there bud, but should I take that as a shot? If so do me a favor and clarify...I seem to have misplaced my secret go go Gadget decoder ring and you have made no sense...I simply meant I was under 1000 miles on the motor on my first run...could that have made the difference? When it comes to the truck I like to think I am a racer first and a girl second, but however you take it that's cool. Constructive critism is appreciated. If ya can't be constructive than just don't BE. What kind of times are you running?


Thanks guys Appreciate the help. I was a little disappointed to say the least. Eric your information was comforting hehe

CA




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WhiteLightninSVT@aol.com
Have you ever seen an Angel riding a Lightning bolt~
1999.5 White *Fastest Color* SVT Lightning
PSP Air Filter Kit
3568 out of 4000, August 13, 1999
763 out of 866 white
NLOC #398
GirlSpeedRacing Denver Chapter
Denver Rec Truck Tags *I8URCHV*



WhiteLightninSVTGirl Apr 22, 2000 07:19 PM

I just read the post from Bill about the top 10 muscle cars....I was below E and put 110 octane in the truck...John said not a good idea to run 104???? Makes us lag? *sigh* Could that have been part of it?
CA

Lightningquick Apr 22, 2000 07:39 PM

I cant believe the conditions have that much effect on times!!!!!wow.I guess Im used to the good ol north east.The most difference ive experienced is 2 tenths in any vechicle.Im also at sea level.It is also usually pretty cool at night when i race regardless of time of year.I also would not put more than a 50/50 mix of gas and cam2.I use it as a octane booster.It works great.DO NOT RUN STRAIT RACE FUEL!!.You will wipe out sensors and plugs and it is not good for your motor in general.CA,I use about 3 gallons with 10 gallons of gas.I notice a loss of power when I use more.This way its like a booster.

dirt bike dave Apr 22, 2000 07:45 PM

CA - I'm not a drag race expert, but that barometric pressure is REALLY low and would certainly reduce power. Pressure in California today is over 30

98_SVT_COBRA Apr 22, 2000 08:00 PM

Is there any chance they were running altitude correction software in their timer system when you ran the 13.5? That ET would require a corrected (like the tv stations report) somewhere in the 36.xx range. Your 15.1 @ 90 MPH sounds about right for a moderate amount of wheelspin with that Baro reading.

Bill Murray Apr 22, 2000 08:11 PM

ChristyAnne & LQ.

I am a little out of my element here, but I am a bit concerned about the issues of both elevation and fuel octane.

At around 5000 feet, CA is not going to ever run the same Et's as we will get at sea level or something over that according to what I have read and seen for the last 40 years or so. That is why I referenced the "correction factor" that some of the more professional magazines use to get a perhaps more balanced time.

As to the octane rating of the fuel we are/may be using, it seems to me that the stock factory settings would not allow any advantage to be gained from going to 104/110 octane fuel with a standard computer setting.

Even if you have a chip, my understanding is that, with a Lightning, it only enhances the performance available using 92/93 octane pump gas.

Should you wish to use 104/110 or even 120 AVGAS, you would have to get a chip burned to take that octane into consideration and use it very carefully.

Way back in my history, I used my Marine
Corps contacts to run some 120 octane AVGAS in a 1959 Buick I owned, a 364 CI LeSabre Convertible with a beefed Dynaflow and 2 four barrel intake and headers etc.

It made one run, only one and I think it was in the low 17s. I towed it to the junk yard after the run, as the motor was totally fried.

I won a trophy, worth about $5, but trashed a car that I had invested about $2K in 1960 dollars in.

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4D THNDR Apr 22, 2000 08:14 PM

Nevermind, I just reread your reference to Sept. and had missed it earlier thinking you were talking about a new motor in the present. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Bad me.
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Red '00 Lightning,
Adopted 4/19/00,
PSP Filter,
Track time pending...



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