Everyone,

Here are a couple pics of something new:






Thanks to JDM for coming up with the part. Thanks to Rob @ unlimited Restorations for the paintwork.

Its a 100mm intake pipe with MAF built in.

Anthony @ JDM can answer any and all questions regarding availability and price.

Some more matching parts.....

 

What is the tube made out of? Looks nice... Glad to see the JDM 100mm maf has finally surfaced...Just curious to how expensive it will be...

 

Nice unit

I thought it was some kind of musical instrument that you youngin's came up with

 

So help me out a little, since I'm a moron when it comes to stuff like this. 99 and 00 L's had an 80mm intake, 01 and up had a 90mm... Right? So what's the difference? What are the benefits of a 100mm?

Thanks for any help. Trying to learn everything...

 

the stock MAF sensor element is designed to work with a 90mm opening to find the amount (mass) of incoming air. Putting it in a 100mm hole is bad thing.

The truck will think it's getting less air than it actually is, and you make ford's 20 million dollars of development cost on an EEC-V worthless with these tooner parts, by just tricking it and have to compensate with band aid fixes in the chip. the EEC-V is designed to use all it's sensors and power to correctly and instantly tune the vehicle, and butchering a sensor like that and then using a chip that tricks the computer into thinking it's ok can only lead to more harm.

At least is looks nice. Maybe you can make it into a Bong?

 

That 2nd picture, with the way the shadow is, makes it look like it is part of the guitar. Which would be one cool guitar. Nice paint job, BTW.

31C

 

Everyone,

Maybe Jim can get on this one and provide us the details as I am not a auto expert, but he has told me that it will require some serious chip tuning , specifically in the Mass-Air area. Per Jim, you can't just bolt this on with your existing chip (no changes).

100mm should give us a bit more room before maxing the 5.0 volts on the MAF.

As of today, I haven't spoken to Jim in a few weeks, so I am not sure if the tuning is ready yet or not. I guess I will find out this weekend......

Best bet is to contact him for the details.


Later

 

Brian,
Your truck looks awesome. I want a color scheme similar to yours.

 

It looks great. Wish I had been able to get one for my last round of tuning.

MISTERgadget

If you believe this...

"The truck will think it's getting less air than it actually is, and you make ford's 20 million dollars of development cost on an EEC-V worthless with these tooner parts, by just tricking it and have to compensate with band aid fixes in the chip. the EEC-V is designed to use all it's sensors and power to correctly and instantly tune the vehicle, and butchering a sensor like that and then using a chip that tricks the computer into thinking it's ok can only lead to more harm."

then you obviously don't understand the limitations of the factory EEC-V system when it comes to controlling high horsepower applications (lets use 500 RWHP for roars).
When the air flow required to produce more horsepower is in excess of what the factory MAF meter can measure before hitting it's maximum 5.0 output voltage, that is the bad thing.
As you stated, what this product does is to allow more air to flow for a given MAF output voltage. Because it will significantly change the effective A/F ratios across the RPM band, it is not something that should be used without tuning for it.
It is no different than using any other aftermarket MAF meter designed for the purpose of increased airflow. With proper tuning(you call it tricking), the results are that factory EEC-V system can now control the A/F ratio for the entire RPM band instead of only 80% of it.
I think that Brian's 100 MM tube looks great, and transferring the electronics to it is hardly "butchering" of the sensor. C&L has offered and sold tens of thousand of meter bodies for Mustangs, where the same procedure is required.
I plan to get one of these on my truck as soon as Jim has some time to devote to developing the required tuning for them.

Lightning Bob

 

Seems to me the 2 choices if you run high HP is to run the stock MAF and compensate when the meter is pegged at 5 volts by some magic in the chip OR to run a larger tube which essentially is putting all the tuning on a curve. Now you can actually measure more air, you just need to make sure the tune is set to compensate throughout the MAF voltage sweep range and is providing more Fuel from start to finish.

To me if you can make it work the second way is better. At least then the air is getting measured the whole time. With the stock MAF - once its pegged at 5v the tuners are blindly adding fuel to try to keep the truck in the safe A/F range

My $0.02

Its ironic too because I am still running a 80mm MAF on my truck....

Doug

 

Looks great, Nice work JDM.
I talked to them about this a few days ago. Like someone said it WILL take a re-burn to implement it.

 

It's funny how people think that the ford computer has "problems" with higher power levels, when EEC-V's are still used in 2200hp renengade cars.

EEC-V's only start being troublesome when RPM goes above 10,000.

 

EEC-V's are used stand alone in Renegade cars ???

 

Uhhh, isn't that why tuners have developed programs to adjust the entire a/f tables of the pcm? Don't be jumping all over me, no flame intended, but I hear that SCT is pretty good at what they do, considering they worked for Ford when they developed the systems. I'd even be willing to bet that tuning for the 100mm MAF is a pretty linear adjustment.