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dmp 12-28-2014 06:13 AM

Finally installed that Eyourlife 23" LED Bar - night pics
 
Straight from China - and worth every penny.
FINALLY finished mounting the spot/flood combo bar - purchased a month ago. I had to have the light tabs on my bumper moved because of the bulk of the bar + brackets. Nevertheless, I am beyond happy with the purchase - came complete with wiring harness. True plug and play. Despite the yellow tint you see in the 'off' pic (where you can see how I moved the brackets from atop the cross bar, to mid-bar), that's probably a reflect from my phone's flash. No yellow/amber when viewed normally. The bar is advertised at 10k lumens, however I have no way to measure. What I can see, however, is subjectively the light could be 10x brighter than my headlamp bulbs, which are likely about 800 lumens. The bumper lights have 85W Hella - amber - in diffused/fog-patter glass lenses and metal housings.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...06a72115f9.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...010509ff7d.jpg


LED headlamp bulbs to follow.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/261634523551



The comparison - taken with my phone about 11:30p 27 Dec

Left side: Bright headlights ON

Right side: Bright headlights ON + LED Bar.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...e048280c4f.jpg

I will adjust the LED bar to aim a little bit upwards; the biggest bright spot is too far down.

MGDfan 12-28-2014 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by dmp (Post 5125116)

LED headlamp bulbs to follow.

^^^ Just say "NO" to that. Do yer research first:

https://www.f150online.com/forums/il...led+headlights

https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...led+headlights

https://www.f150online.com/forums/il...led+headlights

https://www.f150online.com/forums/il...led+headlights

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...MZ-4500-lumens

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...e-copper-cloth

Save yer money - it's all 110% BS marketing, zero regard for optics and junk science & terminology-based obfuscation.

Yer existing housings are totally unsuitable as well - halogen-based reflector.

Save up fer a proper HID projector retrofit, or get some new clear-lensed housings and fresh halogen bulbs.

On the LED bar - if they've elected to overdrive the emitters and/or use minimalist heatsinking, reckon you'll be testing the efficacy of their warranty policy soon....


:beers:
MGD

dmp 12-28-2014 11:12 AM

And if they haven't elected to overdrive the emitters it'll still the best $75 lighting option I've found :)

I'll keep talking with http://www.olympusoffroad.com/ - and their LED headlights before I make the call.

Thanks MGD.

07massHD 12-28-2014 11:18 AM

I installed led fog light bulbs in my truck took them out and put the stock ones back in. Terrible light.
I would listen to mgdfan save up and do the retrofit mod. I can't wait to get mine done. Just my .02

MGDfan 12-28-2014 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by dmp (Post 5125144)
And if they haven't elected to overdrive the emitters it'll still the best $75 lighting option I've found :)

I'll keep talking with http://www.olympusoffroad.com/ - and their LED headlights before I make the call.

Thanks MGD.

Roger that, sir.

I corrected my post - had another look at yer heads - clear lenses. not fluted. But - still a halogen-only reflector. To-date there is no one who produces a LED emitter that can emulate a halogen light source to the required degree of positional precision ( fractions of a millimeter ) or source orientation. This renders the reflector purdy much useless for beam control. Anyone who tells you different is being disingenuous (fayncy werd fer lyin'). The experts on HIDplanet effectively say it all ( Markus, Mick, Satrya, Kozera, etc. ). Even TRS has not released due to the challenges; after much exploratory effort they've shelved it. There is a lengthy thread discussing same.

Olympus peddles the same poorly designed Chinglish crap as all the other variants, sorry to say. http://olympusoffroad.3dcartstores.c...ghts_c_75.html.

Just tryin' to save you some heartache, bud. Please don't shoot the messenger.... I've been looking at this sort of stuff for a loooong time. Even bought an early variant to play with. Makes a good work light - will never see the light of day in a vehicle headlight, lol.

Best o' luck!

:beers:
MGD

MGDfan 12-28-2014 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by 07massHD (Post 5125147)
I installed led fog light bulbs in my truck took them out and put the stock ones back in. Terrible light.
I would listen to mgdfan save up and do the retrofit mod. I can't wait to get mine done. Just my .02

Thankee, sir .. and very best o' luck on ye retrofit! :thumbsup:

:beers:
MGD

dmp 12-29-2014 11:04 AM

You aren't raining on my parade or anything like that - I simply remain unconvinced LEDs aren't the way to go; those links notwithstanding. There has to be something. Hrm.... :)

Just ordered Narva Range Power +50 low beams in hopes of tiding me over until I have a better solution.

Raptor05121 12-29-2014 11:10 AM

Stock headlamps are around 1200lm low beam, 1900lm high beam.

And LED headlights SUCK. Here are some examples of them compared to stock headlights. Projector is an RX350. Top is PnP LED claiming 3500lm. Bottom is a stock 35W Osram 85122 bulb at a known 3200lm

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...1d55fe3e5d.jpg

same setup as above at night:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14...b011884d7c.jpg

Here is another guy that put them in place of his 9005 high beams (ignore the HID low beam):

9005 Halogen at 1800lm:

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/atta...0&d=1416271369

PnP LED kit claiming 3500lm:

http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/atta...2&d=1416271446

That last picture highlights the problem with LEDs- they are directional light sources and you cannot effectively utilize a LED light with optics designed for a completely different light source.

Raptor05121 12-29-2014 11:14 AM

Last set. Notice lack of light control:

stock halogens:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...1&d=1390614479

PnP LEDs:

]http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...1&d=1390614497

owner of said light above then states:

"How do i adjust my headlights down? I havent gotten highbeam checked yet but I DID have 2 different cars I was in front of move there rear view window and another tap his brakes a few times ( i was up his ass kinda). I can see into the inside of peoples cars with these so I do need to adjust them. But other then that i really like them. But the high beams are useless and its annoying not having highs, when i hit the highs the light doesnt change except theres extra light at the bottom of the front bumper (like how fog lights light up the ground)"

And I guarantee they won't last. HIDs will last about 2,000 hours. And I can confirm that because I drive 100 miles every night. I have about 4,000 hours on my HID setup and I'm on my third pair of bulbs.

If you do end up getting them, buy a little 12v hour meter and wire it up. I'll pay for the cost of the LEDs if they last more than 100 hours

thelariat02 12-29-2014 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by dmp (Post 5125305)
You aren't raining on my parade or anything like that - I simply remain unconvinced LEDs aren't the way to go; those links notwithstanding. There has to be something. Hrm.... :)

Just ordered Narva Range Power +50 low beams in hopes of tiding me over until I have a better solution.

Only LEDs worth money are JW speaker. But they don't make replacement headlights for your vehicle.. Other than that OEM LEDs are good. But PNP LEDs are just crap..
Save your money and do a HID retrofit if you want great output.

dmp 12-29-2014 02:03 PM

Where do you get your info that OEM bulbs are 1200 lumens? I haven't seen anything for base-bulbs more than about 1000 on the high end. As I said, I picked up the Norva's - looking at 9011 HIR1 for my high-beams. I am not a DIY Retrofit guy; but I'll keep looking. Mean time, this $75 Ebay LED Bar looks fantastic :D

thelariat02 12-29-2014 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by dmp (Post 5125350)
Where do you get your info that OEM bulbs are 1200 lumens? I haven't seen anything for base-bulbs more than about 1000 on the high end. As I said, I picked up the Norva's - looking at 9011 HIR1 for my high-beams. I am not a DIY Retrofit guy; but I'll keep looking. Mean time, this $75 Ebay LED Bar looks fantastic :D

HIRs are quite amazing. Def worth the money

MGDfan 12-29-2014 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by dmp (Post 5125350)
Where do you get your info that OEM bulbs are 1200 lumens? I haven't seen anything for base-bulbs more than about 1000 on the high end. As I said, I picked up the Norva's - looking at 9011 HIR1 for my high-beams. I am not a DIY Retrofit guy; but I'll keep looking. Mean time, this $75 Ebay LED Bar looks fantastic :D

Yep.

Here are the Lumen -and more importantly - the MSCP numbers, straight from Sylvania, fer 9007 and 9008. Regardless of bulb premium and marketing, the numbers are the same across the board. Only life and kelvin changes. And the overcharge, lol.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/il...ml#post5106694

Sorry that you wasted $$$ that could have gone towards a retrofit. You can, with just a little effort and TRS's Value line of components, construct a set of HID projector heads for less than $200, all-in.

Simply do not understand yer reticence - especially in the face of overwhelmingly solid recommendations and graphic evidence to avoid PnP Leds.

I suspect you won't bend, hence I'll just leave it alone. Nothing further to contribute.

MGD out.

Raptor05121 12-29-2014 04:48 PM

I stand corrected. 1000lm/1300lm. Even still optics > brightness. You show up with a 3,000lm LED and give me 1,000lm and using optics alone I can get you better light coverage.

JackandJanet 12-29-2014 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by MGDfan (Post 5125364)
...<snip>...

Simply do not understand yer reticence - especially in the face of overwhelmingly solid recommendations and graphic evidence to avoid PnP Leds.

I suspect you won't bend, hence I'll just leave it alone. Nothing further to contribute.

MGD out.

I think you are witnessing a perfect example of what Stuart Chase meant when he said, "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible."

To accept proof, we probably have to admit that we "don't know". This is difficult for many of us (me included, too often).

- Jack


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