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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 12:24 AM
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First oil change

Well, I've never been one to let the 'break-in' oil go to the first scheduled change ... so today I cracked open the tool box and had at it for the first oil change (575 miles).

Pulled the plug and watched a lot of nasty grey oil drain out. While draining, I familiarized myself with the underside and found a few goodies that the Ranger doesn't have (like the bosch intercooler pump).

Set my sights on removing the factory oil filter. DAMN, I DIDN'T KNOW POPEYE WORKED AT FORD AS THE OIL FILTER INSTALLER! Dude must have had forearms like that guy in the Tropanica Twister commercials that twists the bottles. Cap adapter just chattered around the end of the filter.... time to invoke the power of Bob Vila and STRAP WRENCH this biotch. After much grunting and a few dents in the filter it gave up the fight. Looks like Ford doesn't lubricate the rubber ring when installing?!

Filled a metallic blue Puroator Pure One filter with about 3/5 a quart of Pennzoil 5W-20 (Pep-Boys only 5w-20 in stock) and spun 'er on. Six quarts total and its dead center of the cross-hatched zone on the stick.

Feel like I know the 'ol girl a little better now....

later...Dan
 
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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I don't know if this is true...but i've heard if you change your oil too often...it can be bad for the engine - Maybe someone like Josh can explain if this is true but I remember seeing this on the boards awhile back.

BTW...Congrats on the HD and Welcome to F150online!
 
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 01:22 AM
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hmmm... never heard that. I usually change at 3000 intervals, but on break-in I change at <1000. Gets rid of a lot of particles and allows me to put on a higher efficiency filter sooner. At 3000 miles I switch to synthetic.

Some metallic particles are necessary to polish and seat the rings, but even a high efficiency filter only captures so much... so it should still allow for proper break-in.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 07:33 AM
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I would not switch to syn so soon. I did on mine and it immediately started using oil. I switch back right away and ran dino untill 10k miles. I haven't used a drop since. I think that you really need to give the engine at least 8 to 10k to breakin. These new oils just lube so well.

For those 3k miles that I had syn in at around 3k miles, I was using 1/2 qt per 1k miles. changed her back and put another 5k on it with dino and then switched again, hasn't touched a drop since.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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i wonder why the corvette and viper and other high end cars come with synthetic oil in them from the factory??

i think they are just as good, if not better for the engine than "crude" oil... just my opinion..

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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 11:58 AM
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Yea, and remember the huge problem cheby had with the vettes burning oil. they had to overhaul a *****load of engines. It was a pretty big deal.

I can only relate my experience then extrapolate from other things like the cheby situation. For me, I'll put about 10k on regular dino oil then switch. Every car I've ever done that with has ended up not touching a drop of oil. I was just glad my truck straightened itself out. I think since it wasn't in there that long helped.

But, hey, you can do whatever you want.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 05:31 PM
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my camaro came with synthetic from the factory and i have never had a problem burning anything, wven when i had straight pipes on it. i have 15K on my truck now and switched to Amsoil synthetic and the truck actually idles smoother and revs smoother as well. but that is just my experience with synthetics. i have had them in every one of my vehicles and have never had any problems whatsoever
 
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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Ditto. synthetic is the only way to go.

My last truck had 183K when I sold it and didn't use oil. Even got better gas mileage than the HD.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by lrutt
Yea, and remember the huge problem cheby had with the vettes burning oil. they had to overhaul a *****load of engines. It was a pretty big deal.
from what i've heard, it was a problem with the rings... they supposedly fixed it by using different rings in 02..
 
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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You're right, it was the rings. What I had heard and read in several places was that the rings just couldn't bed in with syn oil. Thus they just pumped and burned oil. I may be all wet on this but that's what I read. That in conjunction with what I experienced on my own truck, I would tend to believe it.

Just happy I have no problems now. I know BMW and Porch both run syn right from the start. They obviously have a process down for doing this. Of course they also run like 15k between changes to.
 
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