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wchamp7 Mar 12, 2012 10:33 AM

Have y'all seen this?
 
I was searching to get better gas milage because i have been driving more and i found this, there are youtube videos on people doing it to there cars and it working. anyone think its safe? i might try it but wanted to get some input first!

http://discoverhydrogen.com/

Will

MGDfan Mar 12, 2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by wchamp7 (Post 4799483)
I was searching to get better gas milage because i have been driving more and i found this, there are youtube videos on people doing it to there cars and it working. anyone think its safe? i might try it but wanted to get some input first!

http://discoverhydrogen.com/

Will

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Get an earful

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https://www.f150online.com/forums/ot...50-hybrid.html

https://www.f150online.com/forums/ot...?highlight=hho

https://www.f150online.com/forums/ot...?highlight=hho

Bluejay Mar 12, 2012 11:17 AM

do a search on the subject.

kansasflareside Mar 12, 2012 11:52 AM

Simple physics; takes more energy to make hydrogen, than hydrogen puts out being burnt.

wchamp7 Mar 12, 2012 12:54 PM

haha alright i looked yeah i won't do it thanks for the fast reply!

jethat Mar 12, 2012 03:52 PM

The hydrogen scams come up every time gas spikes. Different versions have been around my whole life..

Raoul Mar 12, 2012 06:08 PM

My friend, there is only one true way to see gas mileage gains......The Turbanator.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/me...oat-herder.jpg

As you can see I am very pleased with it.

(Not to be confused with the Turbonator. Your mileage may vary.)

Labnerd Jul 20, 2012 03:03 PM


LOL at all the armchair debunkers!
LOL, yer clueless! I've been in the automotive R&D business since 1991. I've seen thousands of these "systems" submitted for certification so the maker can make some form of claims. NONE have ever worked. If you had even a slight guess, you'd know first off that Y. Brown, self proclaimed inventor of Browns Gas or HHO, has been hammered by the Australian Gov't so many times he was no longer able to do business in Australia. So he brought his "technology" over here where it seems to be like a cancer and keeps growing when in fact it's so bogus, a moron should be able to see that it doesn't work and never will. Do you have any clue what injecting the "fuel" into a modern computer controlled engine will do? I didn't think so. It will screw up the A/F ratios of the PCM as the PCM doesn't have a clue what to do with it. Did you know that in open air it burns at 6000F? Didn't think so, but would ya like to guess at what temp it burns while compressed? Actually it's a good thing these toys don't make much of it or you'd be replacing pistons and heads faster than you could cash a lottery check. Did you know that Browns Gas when it burns, IMPLODES. Didn't think so. The gas is so bulky that when it burns it leaves a vacuum. Wonder how the PCM in yer truck would handle that, do you know? Didn't think so.
I've probably seen all of these gadgets and gadgets are all they are. Some have really made the attempt at reprogramming the PCM to account for the fuel generated. One guy in particular worked with several of our research scientists and while he could make improvements on the fuel mileage, he also would push the vehicle into non-compliance with the emissions. You can do the same thing without all the gadget crapola yielding the same results. He worked on the project for 4 years and never made it work and he probably was the sharpest of any of the so called "miracle technology" creators. But I will give it this. With the new direct injected engines comes a design defect in that there is zero allowances for the soot from the EGR and cam overlap that coats the intake system. A side effect of these toys you herald so dear is that they are great intake system cleaners. Steam and water particulate is the absolute best at carbon and soot removal. I look for it soon to be a standard thing that you'll fill up with gas and top off the water....kinda like the diesels with their urea.
And one more thing, do you have clue how much energy it takes for an engine to run solely on Browns Gas? Here's an exact hint-242,000 joules of heat energy per hour. You won't do that with any 12V alternator I've ever seen and it takes a pretty good size one at 120V. So I guess if you want to have an engine that runs on it, you'll be towing a generator.
And since this was yer 2nd post- welcome to the forum.:wave:

High-ster Jul 20, 2012 03:14 PM

Would installation involve me removing my "magnetized fuel filter"?

It lines up the petrol molecules before entering the combustion chambers for a more efficient burn.

And the "Tornado" that's on my throttle body better not get messed up either !!!

Best fuel efficiency tip yet:

PARK IT~~

dewalt17 Jul 20, 2012 07:18 PM

Tornado FTW! I always wanted one but was always too cheap to bother.

Tooner Jul 20, 2012 07:35 PM

Ouch! Schooled.

NoLongerJeepin Jul 20, 2012 07:35 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Forget the tornado, exhaust recirculation

Attachment 23049

glc Jul 21, 2012 05:49 AM

Give it up - you aren't going to convince us of anything. We listen to real professionals such as Labnerd, he knows what he's talking about and you are fighting a losing battle going up against him.

code58 Jul 22, 2012 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by Raoul (Post 4799742)
My friend, there is only one true way to see gas mileage gains......The Turbanator.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/me...oat-herder.jpg

As you can see I am very pleased with it.

(Not to be confused with the Turbonator. Your mileage may vary.)

My information says that the Turbanator generates "Goat Gas" which does indeed get very good mileage (Raoul has a corner on that market) but it's really hard to follow a car very close that is using it. Makes your eyes water. Confirmation Raoul?
(Course Raoul is the one who did the calculations so we're not really very sure about that 98 MPG figure.)

Toyz Jul 22, 2012 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by NoLongerJeepin (Post 4871488)
Forget the tornado, exhaust recirculation

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...ollscience.jpg

Here's one I just saw that is close to the same concept..

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/ptd/3135474259.html

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