Dodge claims 392(6.4) Challenger runs 12.4!
 

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Damn gonna have to see this.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...pressions.html

That e.t. sounds about right for the horsepower and weight of that car.

Did they do any weight reduction with the 392? I recall one of the Challengers problems was it was alot heavier than the Mustang. I don't recall what the 2012 Mustang BOSS 302 runs in the quarter off the top of my head. I love these muscle car wars though!

the challengers look cool but are really really heavy

The article says they're still heavy at 4200pds, but it wont be too much longer before the CAFE standards kill most of these muscle cars. Get them new while you can because the performance cars of the future are either going to be some sort of hybrid or electric car.

Yeah like 4200lbs+ so its gonna drive like a big car not nimble like the mustang. Thats gotta be underated some, gain a whole second from a 45hp 50lbft increase! That doesn't seem right to me at all. Its teh srt8, so that comparable to the gt500 which it looks like they're running similiar times with supposedly 80 less hp. Of course i imagine the gt500 isn't that easy to launch.

And yeah by 2025 they want cars to be able to get 60mpg. The only way thats possible is if the cut us down to 2cyl hybrid junk. Say goodbye to trucks, this country can't do without trucks!!!

Don't be suprised if down the not to distant future a Mustang GT has a Ecoboost V6 in it instead of a V8. Will make alot of old school guys up in arms but if you can get the same performance and much better MPG do it. They probably will offer a V8 as an option though. Just my guess...

And dear God, please let that Boss outrun a 12.4!!! hahahahahaa

I agree it's a little underrated. My stock Lightning is underrated (based on dynos) and at 4670 pds. runs the 1/4 in 13.65. The Challenger probably has more like 500 HP. Either way, a 12.4 is doable in that car.

I can see that happening. I'm sure there are people out there already asking ford for it. Gotta change with the times i guess..:(

12.4 with a professional driver on a good weather day with a perfect track sounds reasonable to me.

Of course, that equates to about a 13.9 with an average driver on an average track and less than perfect weather, lol.

Absolutely correct :beers:

I've never seen a bone stock car run at the strip what the magazines say they do.

I would like to hear one of the V6 ecoboost run the 1/4 with a good exhaust system. The 6 cylinders have just never sounded good to me.

Let alone with stock tires...

I agree but some have pretty ****ty drivers too. They say a 2008 charger srt8 runs like mid 13's i believe but I watched my brother run 12.9 in his, well he had a diablo tuner but i doubt he gained half a second from that.

Of course we can actually drive.

Yea my bro said on some forum he was on that there was a guy claiming to kno the actual hp somehow. Can't remember why/how he knew or any other details but he said it actually was making 508hp.

They aren't slicks but they aren't putting cheap tires on these cars by any means..

That was what I figured. Ford's official numbers for the '01 Lightnings was 13.9 @100 mph. The first time I took mine to the track (also the first time I ever ran down a 1/4 mile track) it ran 13.91 @100.23 with about 15 feet of wheel spin (cold track.) Everyone that I know of ran from 13.45-13.7 stock with no mods. Some even ran a little quicker than that.

It would be an embarrassment to Dodge if it can't run what they claim is the reason I posted all of that. lol.

I didn't kno lightnings could move quite that fast stock, thats a big truck! I'm just amazed they picked up a whole second. Can't wait to see it.

They definately don't come with cheap tires.But they are street tires and won't hook anything like a DOT approved drag radial will.

It ought to run those times or better for the price. My 2011 GT 5.0 will run 12.8-12.9 and cost $14K less. For $48K, you can also get a GT 500 that will be 12.4 stock and will get into the 11's very easily.

Yeah, big trucks run faster than you think. :banana:

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Exactly just sying they are not cheap tires just can't tromp on it gotta kno how to launch.

Where do you see a price on them? I think i saw something that said they were 42k for and srt8, price pretty much unchanged i think. And they run about the same as the gt500 for a tad cheaper. Don't get me wrong tho i'd take a 500, more potential for cheaper in my opinion, but as i've said before im so freakin tall i'll prob never own a mustang cause they just aren't to friendly when your over 6'2" or so..I'm 6'7" i can barely get the clutch in..:( Looks like i'll have to get a lightning(wish thye'd make a new one) but if i ever want a performance oriented car unfortunately it prob won't be a ford. Damn sure it won't be achevy! haha

The SRT8 is $42, but these 392s are higher. $48K is what I've seen. And if you are over 6 foot tall, the Mustang is likely not for you. There is a reason race car drivers (most) aren't 6 foot+!

Yeah thats why i've decided i'll prolly never own one. Unless i can just move the seat back without it feelin awkward to me afterwards..:cool:

Thats mean as hell man! Always makes me a little jealous to see something like that, can't help it! ha What mods did you have when you ran that? I can see slicks..

Quite a few mods to get it in the 12's with an HD.

Home Ported Blower
6lb Lower and 2.93" Upper pullies
3" Exhaust and front Cats removed
Chickenears CAI
BR7 Plugs
Snow Methanol Injection
Efan
LFP Traction Bars
Hoosier QTP Drag Radials
Bogart D10 Lightweight Skinny fronts.
Spare tyre and tailgate removed
Serious tune.

Sun, Moon and Planets in alignment :ll:

Just the usual :D

:lol: I kno your proud, thats movin for anything! Yeah you got a pretty good number of mods there.. You plan on doing LT's?

If I change to a twin screw blower, then yes.

That will be sweet!!! Do it!! hehe

Makes me wonder, talking about FI, with these motors Ford 5.0 and dodge 6.4 running such high compression there not going to be as FI friendly right? 6.4=10.9:1 5.0=11:1

Yes and no.

You'll have great power off boost but need to run less overall boost unless you are on race gas.

E85 would be the answer for the street on these new engines.

Ahh i see. Don't kno what to think about that really. I've always figured that the best way to get power out off these ford modular motor is FI, but it seems like it kinda takes that away a little with compression that high.