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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 07:48 AM
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Unhappy Supervisor Troubles

I need some help here. I have an issue with coming off rude when I get aggravated with them. I sometimes have issues with expressing getting my point accross even when I am not aggravated. I have been trying to make my responses more subtle or even with a smile to try and change my voice attenuation to be more pleasant. But then ppl think that I that I am belittling them that way. I am kind of in a no win situation right now. Anyone else have some issues like this?? Keep in mind that I am a Generation Y person.

I don't intend to come off like an a-hole. I guess my delivery is what gets me in trouble so much at work also. So it is to the point that I will not even respond to questions to avoid any possible problems with my supervisors. My direct supervisor is from Generation X and is very micromanaging and has God syndrome where what he says in the law. He asks me to do a task and I respond to him that there is an easier way to do it. I believe the man sees it as defiance when I am simply trying to do it more efficiently and quicker. So it has come down to the point where I maliciously obey whatever he asks. Life is a lot easier. Although I do get a lot of kicks from watching him burn his own *** in front of everyone when he rattles off his ideas and they backfire. The man is very paranoid about looking stupid.

But I get stuck with a lot of useless projects and time wasters by this man. He removed me from my original position and put me in one that is further away from him. I am okay with that, but wants me to make for sure the new guy doesn't screw up that replaced me. Yeha right !! That new guy can screw up all day long and I am not going to help him. My replacement is very jealous of me as I have earned the respect of my former employees and they don't want to listen to him. I am in no way directing my former employees or influencing them to do things. But I earned this respect by having to verbally deny a request in front of my boss that he wanted some union employees to do. The request was to violate written safety rules we had in place and would have put of lot of individuals at risk including myself. My boss was later heavily criticized for requesting such a thing after complaints were filed. After that point, things went down hill for me and I was quickly replaced.

So here I am in misery at work for ensuring my employees safety. I swore to them that I was there to make sure they go home to their families each night. With each working day it is like I am going to an arena to do battle with this man. I am not sure what to do other than find another job. I guess this is a lesson learned, but what to do in the mean time to avoid more confrontation.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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I feel yer pain. I'm also blessed with incredible directness and come across as demanding and arrogant. Like you, the subordinates at work know who to come to when the SHTF- me. I also edit my posts a lot because I don't intend to create any kind of conflict. As I've always said, I hear different music than everybody else. It hasn't always been fun but there's nothing you can do about it.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Just give him enough rope, and he'll be gone soon enough.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Turd Furguson
I need some help here....
I think Mr. & Mrs. Furguson are largely responsible for your troubles.
They set you up for a hard life, naming you like that.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Don't be a whistleblower...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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I have the same problems. TIME
Its taken my family the last 8 years to figure out my voice is the way it is, they always thought i came off pissy about everything...

for supervisors, i work with a hardened group of those, they've all started from the bottom and taken a lot of ****. So when they say they want something done like this, i look at the project and ask them if my idea will suffice and may be easier to complete.


if all else fails, tell him your an ***, get over it. just remember, peoples safety is number 1 and i dont give a rip about what any pea brained supervisor thinks should happen. If i never followed through with another mans idea that i disagreed with (lifting a 20hp cast iron electric motor by hand 300# and awkward) my finger would still function properly. because of that, my backbone is stiff when it comes to personal safety and im proud to come off an *** when someone thinks i should risk my well being for the "company" which is really just that persons agenda.
 

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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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2 Choices:

1.) Stay where you are and hope things will eventually change for the better.
2.) Find another job.


Blowing the whistle probably won't do much (except ostracize you even more) unless he does something a helluva lot worse. I would quietly seek employment elsewhere and quit when the time is right. No need to unnecessarily burn any bridges.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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i have the same problem. i come across as rude, arrogant, cold, *******, and more. but like labnerd when SHTF my fellow employees, subordinates and managers know who to go to to solve the problem.

if you supervisors supervisor knows who you are and what your made of and how well you perform then it just takes a little time to get recognized.

as for not answering questions, i will always answer a superior but sometimes if im a little pissed off ill take a deep breath in front of them (so that they know im mad) and then reply in a calm voice, usually with a "sir" before or after.

i think your on the right track though, just do you job as your boss tells you to and when it goes wrong its gonna fall back on him. one day your boss's boss will come and talk to you and then you can explain how you have experience doing this but you boss tells you to do it otherwise.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Upper management always comes down critical on sub management, especially when you have a micromanagement personality in there somewhere.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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My biggest issue with my workplace is when the SHTF, I am normally correct with my diagnosis. A lot of individuals hate that and completely bypass me. They do trial and error to find the issue.

On a side note, I never ratted my manager out for the request of violation. That was the union.

Speaking of watching ppl hang themselves, I have watched their "golden boy" employee hang himself 3 times this week in front of them. This guy can do no wrong despite causing multi-million dollars worth of damage. Must be a smooth talker.

I reckon I am just too dang blunt when I say things.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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I never like an employee to rat on another. I can also tell you that a manager may not always say anything, be the manager knows what is going on. If he/she didn't, they would not be where they are for very long.
Everyone has to answer to someone period, I don't care who they are.

But if someone is going to get hurt , by all means report it to the proper safety officer.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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sit down and talk to him and work out the issyes. it should be no different than what u said here. its all bout the approach, such as , excuse me tom,or whatever, i have a couple of concerns and would appreciate it if we could sit down and have a disscusion after work today, or at lunch, i could use some advice. use "tact"
 
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Old Nov 18, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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I have been a production supervisor for 22 years now at the same place.
I have seen folks come and go and i have had the best and worse employees over the years.

I am always open to a better, safer,more ergonomic way to do things and i listen to all my guys ideas. Now some of these guys are just looking to cut corners and could give a rat what happens to out product, they just want to be done so they can f-off and simply just don't care.

This i find mostly in the younger guys (not all) that begin here. They don't last long when they just don't frickin care what happens to them or the company they work for. I don't get it why?? They get paid well 30k to start but they just don't give a rats azz what happens, can any of you younger guys tell me why and what the hell's going on ??.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
I think Mr. & Mrs. Furguson are largely responsible for your troubles.
They set you up for a hard life, naming you like that.
They could have named him Sue..... well, on second thought that might have been better.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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I feel your pain, I too have been accused of being to blunt. With that being said I will offer my humble $.02. First, I know that you are hurt by being moved to what you think is a lesser job and that requires you to 'get stuck with a lot of useless projects and time wasters'. Whaaaa, get over it, he [I]is[I] you supervisor and regardless of what you think of the job he assigned to you should do it with pride and to the best of you ability (I remind you here to refer to the start of my post). Second, as for your supervisor asking you to make sure your replacement doesn't screw up. Do you care about the company you work for, I mean do you have pride in working for them? If so then you should want to see it succeed and with that is making sure the other guy doesn't screw up. Be the bigger person and help your replacement out, yeah it is going to hurt and frustrate you. But wouldn't it be better to set the example to your fellow coworkers that you can be the bigger person and work with them to ensure pride in your work place. Finally, wouldn't it send a better message to your former workers that you still care about them if you work with the person who replaced you? Because when the count is off or something goes wrong who are they going to blame? And remember the person that replaced you probably did not ask to be put in this situation and is stuck in the middle trying to learn a new job with no help. I am not saying that your supervisor is right or that you are right, just that you should get over it, be the bigger person and set the example for all the other workers. Like I said it is just my $.02 and you can take it or leave it.
 
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