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Old May 4, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Credit where it's due: (Dodge)

Guys- we all kinda went off on the deep end on the SRT wannabe thread. I'm sticking to what's posted in various mags, you guys all claim to have slain (2) SRT-10's each...

At the end of the day, it matters not. None of us won a cookie for our opinion.

But, can we at least agree on this... At least Dodge had the b@lls to build a truck like the SRT-10 in the first place. Who else built anything that could touch the Lightning?

I give credit where its due.. Sure the SRT-10 is crude & rude- but, who else had the cajones to drop a Viper Motor into a truck and sell it?? That didn't require a lot of R&D and development dollars, and in doing so- they create a vehicle that is what it is... Mean...

Now, imagine if Ford grabbed their cajones, and dropped the GT motor into the new Lightning?! I'm sure they won't... Why, it takes cajones to do that.

Chevy's finally getting in the game (After it's over) because the Silverado SS was a joke compared to any truck with even a hint of performance: (Lightning, SRT-10, Any Dodge with a Hemi in it, the Harley Davidson F-150 Screw, Dakota R/T)

I'm just wondering if anyone agree that whether you think the LIghtning is superior or not, that Dodge deserves recognition for the SRT-10- and a set of bowling ***** for having the intestinal fortitude to build it.

If I had $50,000 to spare- I may have one too- but, I'd still want running boards on my quad cab.... I like chrome... And, sleepers.






 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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Sorry but it just does not deserve much credit. It is outperformed in all categories by the Lightning except top speed but nobody, usually, drives their Lightning’s at 148mph or SRT-10 154mph on the freeway…

The only thing Dodge did was bring a viper motor in a truck body to the market and give all the other manufactures, Ford included, a reason to charge $50k for something that’s not worth more then $30k

You can bet with the hype Dodge created with the Viper truck body SRT-10 will have Ford jacking the price on the next Lightning, if there is one, up in the neighborhood of $50k, all because some people are stupid enough to spend $50k on a performance truck that can not tow…

It would have been great if Dodge brought the SRT-10 to the market and competently priced it around $35k and then give Ford a reason to raise the bar but they didn’t. They over priced something and gave Ford NOTHING to beat in any category except top speed.

The Lightning is still King and will be for some time until someone steps up to the plate and brings something that can actually compete with it head to head (i.e truck vs. truck)…


Dodge is really sucking some people in, first it was with ”That thing got a hemi” to some stupid commercial of an SRT-10 blowing the doors off an regular extended cab F150…

Dodge never had the ***** to put a Lightning in any of their commercials, wonder why?
 

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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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You put a big engine into a truck....where is the R/D development, dolars spent in that....The lightning has more R/D and cubic inch for cubic inch I beleave the 5.4 super charged engine out performs a engine with 2 extra cylinders... The srt is ugly....

My first chioce for a new pick up was a dodge ram but as the gods had thier way, I bought a F-150...I will give chrysler/dodge credit for their marketing and in the end, my first and only chioce for a performance truck is a LIGHTNING.
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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a lightning beats an SRT10 in straight line acceleration? hmmm, sounds doubtful. especially with 500 ponies vrs. 380.


Sorry but it just does not deserve much credit. It is outperformed in all categories by the Lightning except top speed but nobody, usually, drives their Lightning’s at 148mph or SRT-10 154mph on the freeway…

correct me if i am wrong. but the reg cab srt10 should spank the L in acceleration stock for stock.
 

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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by LBC150
a lightning beats an SRT10 in straight line acceleration? hmmm, sounds doubtful. especially with 500 ponies vrs. 380.

correct me if i am wrong. but the reg cab srt10 should spank the L in acceleration stock for stock.
Yes to the first paragraph, the Lightning will beat the SRT-10 the vast majority of the time (380hp, advertised but actually more like 420hp vs. 500hp) and no to the second paragraph...

You asked to be corrected so you have been corrected...
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Fellows, come on now, don’t buy into the hype, trust real world (reality) facts and not ”Doh, does that thing got a Hemi?”
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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Well- I would love to see a show down, and not some board BS, but something down head-to head by someone to whom a modicum of trust can be put into..

Not some BS and probably photo-shopped time slips, or dyno stats- but an all-out, ***** to the wall, so me yours and I'll show you mine test of all measurable aspects of each vehicles capacity.

Then and only then- will this debate be closed- but, many may accuse that mag of being biased too...

Perhaps a Chevy Forum could arrange such a test... (An unbiased, impartial observer)

 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by cia-agent
Perhaps a Chevy Forum could arrange such a test... (An unbiased, impartial observer)
... they could be impartial... they have nothing that can compete with either vehicle...


But seriously... I agree with you cia. It is ashame that FoMoCo snubbed the new L.
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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For another $15Kish or so, I certainly would hope that an SRT-10 Ram is faster than a Lightning. I don't particularly think the SRT-10 Rams are very impressive considering how much they cost compared to a Lightning.

From a PR standpoint, yeah, they're cool, but they ain't nothing that a Lightning owner with a credit card and a telephone can't match.
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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i agree with CIA on this one. Dodge has the ***** and came out with a nice truck, i like them.... besides anyone can make a truck with a supercharger on it already fast......



(ive owned a lightning)
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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phleeeezzzzzeeeee when is this all going to end?a TRUCK is a TRUCK and what all of you are swapping tidbits about whats faster and what can't tow what...is not a truck at all...it might "look"like one but in reality its no truck so get over it take it from a real truck owner...maybe you should have continued this conversation in the "svt wanna be" thread...zap!
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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I think we can all agree that we are truck enthusiasists.


I personally don't care who makes the performance truck
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by LBC150
a lightning beats an SRT10 in straight line acceleration? hmmm, sounds doubtful. especially with 500 ponies vrs. 380.

correct me if i am wrong. but the reg cab srt10 should spank the L in acceleration stock for stock.
Here's your correction. That's bench racing buddy....so what the SRT has more HP. Numbers don't mean anything in the real world. The truck is 500+lbs heavier than the lightning, thereby almost negating any power advantage. Sure it "should" spank the L in acceleration...but does it!?
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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horsepower dont mean ANYTHING...lets talk tourque...THATS what makes the world turn...zap!
 
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Old May 4, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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Basically 4 areas ares to test.


1) Top Speed... Winner is SRT-10

2) 1/4 mile time... Winner is SRT-10

3) Stopping... Winner is SRT-10

4) Road Racing... Tie (the SRT-10's wieght is its downfall, the supperier braking combined with the 6 speed manual allow's it to go around a road course faster. The wieght doesn't help though, so its very close. Slight edge to SRT-10)




We can easily see the SRT-10 is the best performing truck made. Does it have its downfalls, YES. But stock for stock, the SRT-10 is better than the Lightning.



I'm with everyone else with F though, they could easily recapture the market and so much more. They need to look at the enthusiest market a little more... BUT what they are doing is helping the company in the long run. The direction F was heading a few years back wasn't good. I can understand why they are cutting cost and focusing on more profitabe vehicles.
 
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