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drillsgtjra Nov 16, 2004 12:26 PM

What's with all these resignations?
 
Seems like there are a lot of top level government resignations going on lately......What's everyone's take on this?

cia-agent Nov 16, 2004 12:36 PM

I think they realize the current administration is an out-take on Saturday Night Live ready to continue for another 4 years, and they don't want to be associated with it, again....

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Seriously, normally you'd hear of one resignation, two max. Five resignations, and one reassignment?! That has to be a record.

The only truy noteworthy change is the resignation of Colin Powell/Sec. of State. I think this is more in line with the down-played differences of opinion regarding Iraq.

jaymz Nov 16, 2004 12:39 PM

Like who's gonna miss that Nazi Ashcroft?????????

My take is that all these guys are so sick of the BS and constantly having to defend Bush's policies that...well...life is too short.

I think this is especially true of Colin Powell; he gets **** from everyone for what Bush has done and I think he's tired of having to defend a guy who he probably thinks is an idiot. I think any future hope of political office for Powell is out the door because of his association with the Bush regime.

fredc51 Nov 16, 2004 12:45 PM

Powell - pushed?
 
Well, I suppose with Conde Rice incharge, we can all look forward to you lot going into Iran now. Hope our lapdog Tony Blair doesn't follow.

kingfish51 Nov 16, 2004 12:46 PM

It's no different than any other second term. Bush is losing 6 of 15, Clinton lost 7 of 14, and Reagan lost 7 of 13.

EddyG88 Nov 16, 2004 12:58 PM

Dont think resignation means they are leaving him. In many cases a resignation is the polite way of getting fired. Step down or be thrown out. Bush knew changes had to be made in order to make the next 4 years more promising.

lariatf150 Nov 16, 2004 01:17 PM

It's normal. Happened with other administrations too. Who cares.

dzervit Nov 16, 2004 01:30 PM


Originally posted by kingfish51
It's no different than any other second term. Bush is losing 6 of 15, Clinton lost 7 of 14, and Reagan lost 7 of 13.
Yay!! Somebody with a brain!!! :banana: :banana:

Edit: Yay! lariatf150 has one too!!

kingfish51 Nov 16, 2004 02:05 PM


Originally posted by dzervit
Yay!! Somebody with a brain!!! :banana: :banana:

Edit: Yay! lariatf150 has one too!!

I guess I shouldn't tell you that I knew there were large numbers of resignations before, but didn't know the numbers, until I read it in USA Today at lunch.

Edit: Sometimes, timing is everything.

cia-agent Nov 16, 2004 02:17 PM

Yes, "resignations" are often 'strongly encouraged' and are a way for one to leave and save-face, rather gettign thrown out on their keester.

That's true in government, and it's true in the corporate world.

When it takes a while, and the person sits while a replacement is sought, typically- that person chose to leave.

When it is preceeded by a note, and the person is gone without a replacement being named- they were asked to leave.

When it's followed with a note stating: "Effective Immediately" that person got thrown out because they wouldn't leave when asked...

MRBBQMAN Nov 16, 2004 02:23 PM

all cabinet members resign upon re-election. it is a courtesy extended the President, who doesn't have to fire anyone. he (so far)simply asks those he wants to stay on, to do so.

fatman66 Nov 16, 2004 02:34 PM

I have also heard that there is a high burnout factor to the resignations in the second term. Usually they have been working almost non stop for four years. Powell is a loss though, I have to say he was the best man in the administration. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rumsfeld go away in a few months.

Green_98 Nov 16, 2004 02:39 PM


Dont think resignation means they are leaving him. In many cases a resignation is the polite way of getting fired. Step down or be thrown out. Bush knew changes had to be made in order to make the next 4 years more promising.
Exactly my thoughts.

MRBBQMAN Nov 16, 2004 02:43 PM

also people like Gen. Powell never had the chance to make "Cheney-money" for his retirement. although he's not hurting for money and never will be, there is multi-millions to made in the private sector

STX/98 Nov 16, 2004 04:15 PM

From what I've read, Ashcroft was asked to leave, as he is not considered the best man by the administration to make the case to extend the patriot act and therefor was replaced. Colin Powell had many disagreements with Debuya over the last four years on foriegn policy from Iraq to Iran to North Korea, and continually came up the odd man out. Regardless if he wanted to leave, or was asked to leave, there was clearly many differences in opinion between the two hence the reason he is leaving. From what I've read, Rumsfeld is planning to stay for another 4 years as he expects the situation in Iraq to improve by then, and felt that leaving now would be a blow to his reputation as the situation in Iraq is far from ideal.


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