Look how long the Edge was around before it's next remodel. 2006 - 2010, 5 years. That seems like a perfect timeline to me, just like the 2004-2009 F150. Just enough time to pay off that 5-year loan before the next remodel / new car buying itch starts again.

http://www.egmcartech.com/2010/02/10...st-in-the-u-s/

5-year cycle sounds a lot better to me than a 3-year cycle which has been rumored about for awhile now for all Ford vehicles. Then again, the SuperDuty only had a 3-year cycle, so who really knows.

 

Perhaps, BUT, everyone at Ford has mentioned that the 2009 model was simply a "refresh" update of the the 04-08 model. Park them side by side, the are very similar, just freshened up sheet metal really (and the SCrew is bit bigger), but underneath, the exact same truck. I guess the 2012 model is ALL new, but, alas, only time will tell. Does it really matter anyway? The current model year truck is awesome, as are, the last generation as well.

 

True that. Everyone used to get so mad at me for calling the '09 a refresh, but that's what it is. Even after I bought an '09 back in March 2009, I have refused to call it "new" to anyone I know - it's always been a refresh to me. Of course, they sure did a nice job, no question. The only things I dislike are the front door detents and the useless fog lights. Pretty much everything else is incredible (NAV, SYNC, Backup Cam, Seats, Power Running Boards, etc etc), expect perhaps, yet again, Ford's claims of ultra quietness (the '09 Plat is not ultra quiet with all the assorted interior creakys - do they test these before release with the radio cranked or what?).

 

Not to mention the edge has nothing to do with the f150...The f150 is ford's flagship vehicle and they want to keep it as fresh as possible. This is part of the way forward plan Mulany speaks of.

 

Partially correct.Way Forward Plan includes all Ford vehicles, not just 1 single nameplate. Edge is a FoMoCo product, and Mullaly has a vested interest in all FMC product, not just F150. Sure, back in '09 he talked about it being their #1 selling vehicle, blah blah, but soon as the next vehicle to get redesigned was ready he was done with the 150 and on to the next newest thing. You can't bet on one product to save your whole company or always keep you #1.

Ford has proven they've moved on from caring about just their trucks. The past few years have seen several amazing cars released from FMC, which is awesome and about time. They won't forget their trucks by any means, but they won't put one single vehicle on a pedestal above all the rest. If they did, each MY of the 150 would have all the newest tech, like BLISS, MyFord, push start, heated steering wheel, etc. But they don't, do they?

My whole point was to point out how their has been a lot of 3-year cycle rumor for all FMC product, yet vehicles, such as the Edge, are currently on 5-year cycles. And that product is a good seller for them. Then again, the SD is on a 3-year cycle. Let's take the Focus, that's on a 4-year cycle (2008-2011). It's all over the board.

I'm hoping it stays 5-year, but that's just my own opinion. If I ever win the lottery, I'll change my opinion to a 1-year cycle. Ahhh, to dream...

 

09 more than a refresh. All new... no, but more than a refresh. Past examples of a refresh would be 99 F150, 92 F150 etc... Diff grille and slight interior changes.

Typically a refresh doesn't mean a change in frame, suspension, etc...

With new fusion & edge they "focused" on everything you see or touch. F150 was more than that.

 

Older trucks are very similiar. Somebody at work has a 04-08 and sometimes when I get off I find myself walking to his truck instead of mine. The doors, windows and the side of the truck all appear to be the same. The front and rear ends have been redesigned along with the interiors. Like I said though from the side they look nearly identical.

 

Exactly! I know they changed allot relatively speaking, but, I still consider it a "refresh" of an already great platform (04-08)... These are already great trucks (my wife always said she would never have a Ford in her driveway ----long time GM owner.), Now we have two, (Mazda being a FoMoCo), and she absolutely LOVES her new SCrew (yes, the truck is "hers" as she claims to everyone). I'm very happy (and proud) of the new F150, and it was important to us, that we not only got a great deal on a great product, but, we supported a company that didn't run to the government for bailout money. I'm now looking for a new "toy hauler" to haul my racebikes to the track, now, that I finally have a vehicle that can actually tow some weight (I always used my car to tow a small utility trailer).
Loving this community so far!

 

What is "BLISS"?

 

I don't know if any of you work at a ford plant or not, I do and trust me the f150 is put before other vehicles. Like I said they consider this their flagship and it is the most important vehicle by far. They supposedly make $10,000 dollars for every f150 that rolls off the line. By far more than any other vehicle in their line-up. Sorry Cometflash your wrong.

 

What special treatment do the F150's get what the other models don't?

 

I'm sorry too. Good luck in your fantasy world.

 

The 09-10 was a major update. Yes, it is very similar to the 04-08, but why change something that works. I really think that this is really all the update that was needed. I think future updates will be the same. They will be minor and more cosmetic than anything else.

 

exactly. take a look at the ranger... pretty much the same body since 1993. Also the Superduty has not changed much body panel wise since 1999

 

I'd tend to agree with that. I imagine the next change will probably be to the frame and whatnot, trying to reduce weight while retaining the strength and safety qualities of the current frame. I assume the frame has to be the heaviest thing on the current truck? I have heard that the new engines (at least EB) is supposed to be like 175lb lighter than the current 5.4L. I'm sure they want to reduce weight to increase MPG, yet retain the best working and safest pickup in the industry.