why all the hate on the edge?? only difference I see is more custom to 'canned'

so for the experienced... is the edge junk ,or just a personal preference

 

Edge's canned tunes leave a lot to be desired.

 

The Edge and the Gryphon are the same hardware. The difference is that the canned tunes in the Gryphon are tweaked a bit and you can get the custom tunes for the Gryphon. You can get them for the Edge, but they have to come from PHP, the seller of the Gryphon and it'costs less if you buy the hardware from them.

Now, are the custom tunes better and worth the money? Absolutely. I ran the Edge canned tunes for 31,000 miles, thought I was satisfied. Finally ordered an 87 Perf and a 93 Perf from PHP. The difference is amazing. I went from running 93 octane on level 3 with the Edge to running the 87 Perf and it was stronger. I ran it for about 75,000 before selling the truck.

Edge is good, Gryphon is better.

 

Let me guess ( and it's just a guess) - you already bought an Edge, then discovered this site

Always do the research first, then pull the trigger.

Doing it the other way around usually results in folks getting their backs up or in denial that they may have made a mistake.

Happens all the time ...

Easily fixed - just get it converted to a Gryphon ASAP. Or - if you haven't purchased, just buy a Gryphon from PHP directly. The tunes are cheaper that way too.


MGD

 

and if I am not mistaken....the last I checked at PHP is the only had a few monochrome Gryphons left and they didn't plan to restock so better get yours while you still can if you don't already have a programmer.

 

much appreciated bluejay ,and now that's what I was trackin for the most part just needed a lil clarification I guess. If you compare to the two just for hardware sake it's obvious they are the same system with a different company logo sticker tatted on.

no MGD ,about too purchase tho and it looks like the gryphon is the winner. I been here for a few months and I read the stickies here was just wonderin why the bias toward the gyrph. I was considering getting the edge because it seems more convenient ,plug and play ya know. Seems the gryphon is much more the money for their custom tunes. If I can get one of the remaining models left at least!

 

Bill, the owner of PHP is a former employee and program writer for Edge. I think he still does contract work for them. He went out on his own and started PHP. He knows where the Edge tunes left power on the table, plus the shifting and downshifting of his custom tunes are so much better, it's hard to communicate.

 

well alrite alrite alrite, looks like were in business sir . I'll be purchasing one this month ,later in April. Be contacting the forum here and php to see what kind of tunes I'll need. Wana go aggressive , for power and torque. 93 octane isn't a problem ,so maybe let's say a 87 perf , 93 perf, and a fuel eco/stock tune for long hauls.

Trucks a 2010 XLT 4x2 screw 3v 4.6.got some weak bolt ons, CAI ,throttle body spacer,and magna flow just before the 2nd cat,bullet,with dump.

 

Just to sing their praises a little more...PHP is a family owned and run company. They have always been honest and sat on the phone with me for literally an hour helping when I was stumped with my intake. Customer service is excellent and like a normal family they take vacations and such however, they do have an emergency thread for no-starts and such.

Enjoy!

 

rad iHellFire, I appreciate it. and I see their reputation is backed by many of you guys and gals. now my current situation ,if u haven't seen my EB thread.. haha.. Might be in the market for a new truck ,either way. I see edge has an ecoboost canned tune. wonder what PhP could do, lets see what the future holds.

and if ur still around bluejay man. I see you have a new 5.0L , the rated HP is right next to the ecoboost ,at like 345 stock right? How you like the truck ?

 

'nuf said

PHP stopped making "eco tunes" years ago because people didn't like how lethargic they were (to me this is a NSS result). BUT I've been logging my mileage since November under a variety of conditions. If you want mileage, a good right foot and a tow tune will point you in the right direction. I get the same mileage loaded up with gear in my tow tune as I do running empty in my performance. The acceleration isn't as good but as a careful driver I rarely need it.

 

Wow I just called gryphon and they actually answered!!

I don't know why but it’s says on the PHP forum in big bold red letters that they are no longer upgrading 97 -03 f150s to gryphons but when I called they said no problem! Go figure this is why I hate forums . I was soo surprised when they answered the phone I forgot one of my questions so I will put it out here and maybe you all can help me. Recently all the stations in my area switched from 91 to 92 octane and 93 octane is not available in my area that I know off. To the best of my knowledge Gryphon offers 87 tunes 91 tunes and 93 tunes so what should I do here? Is it ok to run a 91 Octane tune with 92 octane in the tank?
If you respond please let me know how certain you are. It is possible that the stations in my area will switch back to 91 but who knows I was shocked to see that they suddenly switched over to 92 octane.

 

You can always run a higher octane than your tune calls for but never run an octane less that what your tune calls for. If you have it tuned for 91, and put 92 in, you can bump the timing .5.

 

They are no longer upgrading the original monochrome Evos for the 97-03 due to the cable issue. They will convert later model Edges.

 

x2, they upgrade the CS and CTS for the 97-03 trucks. Not the monochrome for the troublesome cable issue.

X2, generally anything labeled premium will work. 91/93 premium depends on altitude so go by the name they call it.