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It is always a trial when making up ones mind of a tuner, yesterday it was the Gryphon, today looking again at the SCT X3. I do not really need the display the Gryphon has, sure its handy, but I do not push the truck. I am assuming, and please correct me if I am wrong, that though the Gryphon I can change tunes easily with the display, with a SCT X3, I would have to plug it in each time to change the tune from performance to tow, but should still be a no brainer?
I hear good things of both VMP and Troyer for custom tunes to it also, seems more people like the VMP tunes, get quicker service.
Troyers website says it comes with 3 stock tunes that you can add an additional 3 custom tunes onto, carrying 6 tunes?
VMP only talks of 3 tunes total?
Am I missing something between the two?
When I go to VMP site to order one, it gives drop down menus for 3 custom tunes, or are those really the stock ones and then they write custom ones when having more info of the truck, altitude, driving, etc like PHP would do?
I realize it is a persons "feel" for what they want out of tunes, but not having any background with them it is difficult to decide.
Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance again.
I hear good things of both VMP and Troyer for custom tunes to it also, seems more people like the VMP tunes, get quicker service.
Troyers website says it comes with 3 stock tunes that you can add an additional 3 custom tunes onto, carrying 6 tunes?
VMP only talks of 3 tunes total?
Am I missing something between the two?
When I go to VMP site to order one, it gives drop down menus for 3 custom tunes, or are those really the stock ones and then they write custom ones when having more info of the truck, altitude, driving, etc like PHP would do?
I realize it is a persons "feel" for what they want out of tunes, but not having any background with them it is difficult to decide.
Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance again.
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both are good tuners. i have the xcal3 from VMP. it has the "canned" tunes on it when you purchase it, then you also get the 3 custom tunes that you can pick and Justin will write them for you and then email to you. if you dont need/want the screen just go with the xcal3 from VMP, fast turn around times. whenever you need to change something just simply plug it in to the obd port
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It is always a trial when making up ones mind of a tuner, yesterday it was the Gryphon, today looking again at the SCT X3. I do not really need the display the Gryphon has, sure its handy, but I do not push the truck. I am assuming, and please correct me if I am wrong, that though the Gryphon I can change tunes easily with the display, with a SCT X3, I would have to plug it in each time to change the tune from performance to tow, but should still be a no brainer?
I hear good things of both VMP and Troyer for custom tunes to it also, seems more people like the VMP tunes, get quicker service.
Troyers website says it comes with 3 stock tunes that you can add an additional 3 custom tunes onto, carrying 6 tunes?
VMP only talks of 3 tunes total?
Am I missing something between the two?
When I go to VMP site to order one, it gives drop down menus for 3 custom tunes, or are those really the stock ones and then they write custom ones when having more info of the truck, altitude, driving, etc like PHP would do?
I realize it is a persons "feel" for what they want out of tunes, but not having any background with them it is difficult to decide.
Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance again.
I hear good things of both VMP and Troyer for custom tunes to it also, seems more people like the VMP tunes, get quicker service.
Troyers website says it comes with 3 stock tunes that you can add an additional 3 custom tunes onto, carrying 6 tunes?
VMP only talks of 3 tunes total?
Am I missing something between the two?
When I go to VMP site to order one, it gives drop down menus for 3 custom tunes, or are those really the stock ones and then they write custom ones when having more info of the truck, altitude, driving, etc like PHP would do?
I realize it is a persons "feel" for what they want out of tunes, but not having any background with them it is difficult to decide.
Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance again.
Since the truck temp gauge is not a real funtioning gauge, would it not be nice to know exactly what your engine temp is at all times? Would it not be helpful to know what the tranny temp is running? How about actual volts going from the altenator to the battery? Since the truck speedometer is off by 2-3 mph from the factory, wiuldn't it be nice to know exactly how fast you are going/ These are the 4 things I monitor with the display. They are invaluable to me.
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Since the truck temp gauge is not a real funtioning gauge, would it not be nice to know exactly what your engine temp is at all times? Would it not be helpful to know what the tranny temp is running? How about actual volts going from the altenator to the battery? Since the truck speedometer is off by 2-3 mph from the factory, wiuldn't it be nice to know exactly how fast you are going/ These are the 4 things I monitor with the display. They are invaluable to me.
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I said nice, not a necessity, and I realize, I like to know exactly what is going on at all times so I can head off more extensive repairs. My truck runs 192 to 195 and if it goes over 200, I know something is going on and can deal with it before it catches me out on the highway.
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It is nice but its not a necessity. What does it matter if your water temp is at 215* or 225*? If it goes over, your stock gauges still display it going out of the safe zone. The only plus I can see is the tranny temp, but depending on OPs usage (doesn't run the truck hard, does he tow?), it might not be needed.
The water temp is an inferred value taken from the cylinder head temperature sensor.....
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Yes, at times it is nice to know every little thing of an engine, to a point IMHO. I don't push a truck hard, build one up to hot rod but to just get more from it. Yes, I will tow with the truck, but I also know its limits, what it can or can't do, don't run it up hills at wot. I have been towing for years, 1963 F300 with a 390 to Chevies with 350, Dodge cummins, Ford superduty. Every truck/engine runs/operates different. I do miss the dodge, I could get 22mpg running empty or 18 pulling 10,000 lb gooseneck, though not fast up a hill. The superduty was great for running up hills with the same trailer, could maintain 70 mph without trouble, but also only got 13 mpg at best.
So yes, the gauges would be nice, but I know I would not be playing with them, looking at them all the time, that coupled with the turn around time. I figure that in a year, 90% of the drive time will be to and from work on the interstate, 7% pulling the bass boat which is a no brainer, 3% pulling the travel trailer which tops out at only 5500 lbs.
I did order from VMP yesterday, Justin emailed me back within minutes of my initial questions, then replied back instantaneously while we decided on little things.
To each their own.
So yes, the gauges would be nice, but I know I would not be playing with them, looking at them all the time, that coupled with the turn around time. I figure that in a year, 90% of the drive time will be to and from work on the interstate, 7% pulling the bass boat which is a no brainer, 3% pulling the travel trailer which tops out at only 5500 lbs.
I did order from VMP yesterday, Justin emailed me back within minutes of my initial questions, then replied back instantaneously while we decided on little things.
To each their own.
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Yes, at times it is nice to know every little thing of an engine, to a point IMHO. I don't push a truck hard, build one up to hot rod but to just get more from it. Yes, I will tow with the truck, but I also know its limits, what it can or can't do, don't run it up hills at wot. I have been towing for years, 1963 F300 with a 390 to Chevies with 350, Dodge cummins, Ford superduty. Every truck/engine runs/operates different. I do miss the dodge, I could get 22mpg running empty or 18 pulling 10,000 lb gooseneck, though not fast up a hill. The superduty was great for running up hills with the same trailer, could maintain 70 mph without trouble, but also only got 13 mpg at best.
So yes, the gauges would be nice, but I know I would not be playing with them, looking at them all the time, that coupled with the turn around time. I figure that in a year, 90% of the drive time will be to and from work on the interstate, 7% pulling the bass boat which is a no brainer, 3% pulling the travel trailer which tops out at only 5500 lbs.
I did order from VMP yesterday, Justin emailed me back within minutes of my initial questions, then replied back instantaneously while we decided on little things.
To each their own.
So yes, the gauges would be nice, but I know I would not be playing with them, looking at them all the time, that coupled with the turn around time. I figure that in a year, 90% of the drive time will be to and from work on the interstate, 7% pulling the bass boat which is a no brainer, 3% pulling the travel trailer which tops out at only 5500 lbs.
I did order from VMP yesterday, Justin emailed me back within minutes of my initial questions, then replied back instantaneously while we decided on little things.
To each their own.
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