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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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User error? hmmm....i dont think so since the unit came with firmware version 1.2.123 already installed, and according to SCT's own website the most current firmware is 1.2.123

If SCT came out with a update, they would change the firmware number....thats how firmwares work. If they decided to change something within the same firmware and not change the number, that really doenst give me the warm and fuzzies.

Secondly, if buying from a Custom tuner, you'd think that the unit would be 100% upto date to run with the current vehicle which you bought it for, and listed on the tuner sheet.... IMO

I'm going to update the firmware from SCT's website and basically use the same firmware that shows currently on my unit, but maybe that will fix something.
my questions is this, did the tuning device come with the pre-loaded tunes? or were they emailed to you for you to open the package on the Xcal and then load the tunes yourself???







also how many times did you try the operation? if just the once then for sure try it again as Justin said...
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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also how many times did you try the operation? if just the once then for sure try it again as Justin said...
If it doesn't work the first time, its not going to work on the second try, or the third, or nth time. Its not like threading a nut. Its a computer, on or off, works or don't, black or white. If it fails to do something that is because there is an error at some step in the process that needs to be fixed. It won't just auto-correct or bypass this issue on its own, and you sure as hell can't force it with a hammer. This is why computers are the biggest PITA to work with at times.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by maplesyrup
Which exact tuner did you get?
I got the X3 model= 3000
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tarajerame
my questions is this, did the tuning device come with the pre-loaded tunes? or were they emailed to you for you to open the package on the Xcal and then load the tunes yourself???







also how many times did you try the operation? if just the once then for sure try it again as Justin said...

The tunes were preloaded on already. I opted for 93 Performance, 87 Performance, and 87 Mileage. These 3 were already on the tuner when i recieved it. I'm assuming these were installed by Justin since i have to access them from the "custom tune" section of the programer when loading into my truck

I tried 2 times, and both times i had the exact same outcome. It read the strategy code fine, and started the "upload" I'm assuming this upload was of the stock tune, but then around 89% is when it stopped and i recieved the 1017 error, the only option from this was to click continue on the unit, which i did, and then the unit gave a 1009 error, and said tunes were not performed, at which point the unit went back to it main menu.

I also do appreciate everyone's advice...bc i'm sure I wasnt the only, and wont be the only person to go through this.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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Im wondering if the right numbers for your pcu were entered in? You know how you have to send him your pcu serial numbers and all that jazz?
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by maplesyrup
Im wondering if the right numbers for your pcu were entered in? You know how you have to send him your pcu serial numbers and all that jazz?
This ran through my head also....but its kind of hard to mess that up, since its the first sole 4 letters right on the PCU. At least i do have my full 7 digit stratagey code now.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Timelessr1
This ran through my head also....but its kind of hard to mess that up, since its the first sole 4 letters right on the PCU. At least i do have my full 7 digit stratagey code now.

I know its kinda strange too and it should have enough memory? When I got the email tune from him I had 2 empty slots and 1 magnacharger tune in my sct...When I tried loading it, it wouldn't let me, I had to erase the stock magna tune and when i did, It loaded fine.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Altatruck
If it doesn't work the first time, its not going to work on the second try, or the third, or nth time. Its not like threading a nut. Its a computer, on or off, works or don't, black or white. If it fails to do something that is because there is an error at some step in the process that needs to be fixed. It won't just auto-correct or bypass this issue on its own, and you sure as hell can't force it with a hammer. This is why computers are the biggest PITA to work with at times.
Actually you're not completely right. While not the same brands, I work for Caterpillar, and flash ECM's quite regularly. I have seen a flash not work several times after trying to flash up to even 99 percent and then kick back out. You try it again. I've had one mess up 3 times and then work the 4th. Not defending anyone or anything but it's not a "switch" its a computer. More than one thing can go wrong. The bad thing about Cat, if it doesn't load it will leave the ECM blank and you have to do it again. It will actually call the ECM blank.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 10:43 PM
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I honestly would not keep trying to upload a tune with your unit. I think the fact that it continues to fail late in the loading process tells you there's a problem. Continuing to try to make it work might just leave you with an inoperative truck.

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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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If you're not getting through to Justin, keep trying with SCT. They can do a web X so they can see themselves what's going on.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nutty 5.0
If you're not getting through to Justin, keep trying with SCT. They can do a web X so they can see themselves what's going on.
thanks Nutty...i did get in touch with Justin. He suggested that i try it 2 more times. I mentioned to him that i updated the firmware even though it seemed to be up to date according to version number. I also mentioned to Justin that i was going to update the Revision update since it was pretty new ( some time in October it was released) He told me , tht shouldnt really have any effect on it since the unit is "custom tuned" I also gave him my 7 digit stratagey code, and he said according to what i gave him originally off the PCM is matching up, so i'm all good there.

I'm going to try tonight again, and see what happens. he said the next step if it still doesnt work that he'll contact SCT.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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there's a chance that the truck has flashed at some point in it's life and didn't get eh ECM sticker, or it was never returned to stock...
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tarajerame
there's a chance that the truck has flashed at some point in it's life and didn't get eh ECM sticker, or it was never returned to stock...
Can you explain this a little further? I talked to Justin and he said my 7 digit Stratagey Code matched with my 4 digit computer code I origianlly gave him. I was going to retruy the load last night, but it was FREEZING here in NJ...might try it tonight if i get brave enough to battle the cold!
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Timelessr1
Can you explain this a little further? I talked to Justin and he said my 7 digit Stratagey Code matched with my 4 digit computer code I origianlly gave him. I was going to retruy the load last night, but it was FREEZING here in NJ...might try it tonight if i get brave enough to battle the cold!
One other thing that can interfere with proper programming of the PCM is extremely cold temperatures. If you want to try again, make sure the vehicle (and PCM) are fully warmed up, that the battery is in a full state of charge and that the programmer itself is completely warm (probably from being inside the house).

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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Timelessr1
Can you explain this a little further? I talked to Justin and he said my 7 digit Stratagey Code matched with my 4 digit computer code I origianlly gave him. I was going to retruy the load last night, but it was FREEZING here in NJ...might try it tonight if i get brave enough to battle the cold!


if someone flashed the ECM with an updated Ford tune and didn't change the ECM sticker, then the code changed and the sticker didn't.


basically it means you don't have the same code inside the ECM as you thought, it's a possibility....
 
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