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Old May 21, 2010 | 12:10 AM
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Do I really need a Tuner?

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I just bought my truck a week ago and got pulled over for speeding. I "thought" i was going 40 in a 35 school, but I was actually going 44. My friend said the speedometer is off cause I have 35" tires. I asked the dealer about it and they said they will fix it. I am also putting a Magnaflow cat-back exhaust system and maybe some more mods. Would I benefit from getting a programmer? Or should i just go to a shop and pay for the one time custom tune? I wont be doing anything crazy, mostly driving around town. I do have a heavy foot on the gas and brake hard. Thanks.
 

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Old May 21, 2010 | 12:15 AM
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Old May 21, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pehenley
Hi all,

I just bought my truck a week ago and got pulled over for speeding. I "thought" i was going 40 in a 35 school, but I was actually going 44. My friend said the speedometer is off cause I have 35" tires. I asked the dealer about it and they said they will fix it. I am also putting a Magnaflow cat-back exhaust system and maybe some more mods. Would I benefit from getting a programmer? Or should i just go to a shop and pay for the one time custom tune? I wont be doing anything crazy, mostly driving around town. I do have a heavy foot on the gas and brake hard. Thanks.
If you are talking about the dealer reflashing for the tires, that is not a one time custom tune. You will benefit greatly with a tuner and prefferably custom tunes. You will get back some lost power with the bigger tires and you will get much better shifting. The shifting alone is worth it to me. Also, if and when you change tire size again, you can adjust the settings yourself at not cost.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 12:18 AM
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What Tuner would you recommend? I looked at the Evolution CS and the SCT.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 12:23 AM
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Most here suggest the gryphon with php tunes
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 12:25 AM
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yes either of those! lol
 
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I am a firm believer in custom tunes and like the Xcal3 tuned by VMP or the Gryphon tuned by PHP. I prefer the Gryphon for the gauges it provides. You can also get the CS from them. If you want canned tunes, some have liked the Diablo.

Be syre and read this if you haven't:
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ch...unes-read.html
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 07:19 AM
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X2 for the gryphon tuned by PHP
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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Get a Gryphon
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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What Tuner would you recommend? I looked at the Evolution CS and the SCT.
Either one will work.
Get the Gryphon CS from PHP or the SCT from VMP or 5 Star.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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Edge evolution!!! you'll be glad you did.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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How does it work?

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Edge evolution!!! you'll be glad you did.
I'm totally new to the whole programmer thing but from what I gather I'd benefit from installing one. I've heard good things about the Edge Evolution and I think that's the one I'll be going with. How easy is it to install? Is there anything else I should be aware of that I'll need to buy in order to install it?

I understand what the difference between canned tunes and custom tunes are, or at least I think so, but I'm totally clueless about how to create cutom tunes and why I would want a custom one verses a canned one.

Any information you think would be valuable to a new guy would be great!
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 03KingRanch1984
I'm totally new to the whole programmer thing but from what I gather I'd benefit from installing one. I've heard good things about the Edge Evolution and I think that's the one I'll be going with. How easy is it to install? Is there anything else I should be aware of that I'll need to buy in order to install it?

I understand what the difference between canned tunes and custom tunes are, or at least I think so, but I'm totally clueless about how to create cutom tunes and why I would want a custom one verses a canned one.

Any information you think would be valuable to a new guy would be great!
http://www.edgeproducts.com/product_..._video-277.wmv

http://www.edgeproducts.com/product_...manual-277.pdf

You don't create custom tunes. You send your Evolution to PHP and Bill Cohron (an experienced tuner) writes the tunes.

Re-read the custom vs. canned tunes explanation. Jack explains the differences using very clear, concise, and down-to-earth terms.

If you DO decide on custom tunes (which are the better option), buy your Gryphon with custom tunes directly from PHP. http://dygytalworld.ehost-services13...php/Index.html

I also recommend you join PHP's forums and read the numerous threads. http://forum.gopowerhungry.com/
 

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Originally Posted by 03KingRanch1984
I'm totally new to the whole programmer thing but from what I gather I'd benefit from installing one. I've heard good things about the Edge Evolution and I think that's the one I'll be going with. How easy is it to install? Is there anything else I should be aware of that I'll need to buy in order to install it?

I understand what the difference between canned tunes and custom tunes are, or at least I think so, but I'm totally clueless about how to create cutom tunes and why I would want a custom one verses a canned one.

Any information you think would be valuable to a new guy would be great!
The Edge is good, but the custom tuned Gryphon is better. I ran the Edge for 31,000 miles and have had the Gryphon custom tune for about 45,000 miles. The custom tune shifts better and the downshifting is far better. Plus, I have an 87 Performance tune that gives me better performance that I got with the Edge on 93. So, it paid for itself in about 6 months.

You don't do the custom tunes, you have them written for your truck by a programmer. It's kind of like good, better, best. There are some tuners that are good, like Hpertech, some better, such as Edge, and the best, that would be the custom tunes.

If you have not read the sticky at the top of the forum, all about tuners, it should help you to do so.
 
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Old May 21, 2010 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 03KingRanch1984
I'm totally new to the whole programmer thing but from what I gather I'd benefit from installing one. I've heard good things about the Edge Evolution and I think that's the one I'll be going with. How easy is it to install? Is there anything else I should be aware of that I'll need to buy in order to install it?

I understand what the difference between canned tunes and custom tunes are, or at least I think so, but I'm totally clueless about how to create cutom tunes and why I would want a custom one verses a canned one.

Any information you think would be valuable to a new guy would be great!
Canned tunes are a one size fits all approach. You will be better off then stock with canned tunes. But If you have or plan on any mods like an air intake or exhaust the custome tune is the way to go. Custom tunes are just that, written specifically for your truck. I had the Edge and loved it, then I uprgraded to a Gryphon. It was a night and day difference. My reccomendation is that if you are thinking about an Edge Evo you sound spend a little more money and get the Gryphon.
 
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