hey,


So heres the deal i have a 99 f150 4x4 with teh 5.4L v8 and i wanna get the best power gains out of a tuner...
I dont know which way to go however, i heard about the hypertech but tehn sumthing bout the gryphon...
I also would liek some ideas to what power gains i could get..

dave

 

 

? ok? great answer?

 

I would contact both of them and see who you feel most comfortable with. I still have not decided, and thats the reason that I joined this site.

 

Why funny?

 

exactly? y funny thats my point to! but ya i was planning to do so but i dont know if there is another one i should consider before making my purchase...

 

because this question has been asked a million times, a search would have brought up more then enough info to make a wise choice on a programmer, there is no best, just peoples opinions, then people will get in a pissing match over which they think is best, look into all the brands and get what you like the most, my opinion is the xcal2 from vmp

 

Isnt the xcal2 older than the xcal3? Can it still be gotten? Whats wrong with the newer version?

 

great, maybe peoples opinon is what i wanted...
but ok i was just curious to what you thought i did not say which one is the best i asked which would give me the best power gains that all.... doesnt mean you gotta think that it would happen anything would help me tht y i asked the question but thanks for the help and where would u get the xcal? is there an offical site? or company? or sumthing?

 

o yeah... they are the same except the xcal3 can hold up to 6 tunes, the 3 "canned tunes" and 3 custom tunes, you can still get the xcal2 i believe there is one in the classifieds right now, not many stores still sell them. nothing wrong with the xcal3, just the xcal2 will be cheaper and i personally dont have a need for 3 canned tunes that i cant use because of my intake

 

the xcal2 or 3 can be bought several places, on this site people preffer either troyer but can have up to a 6 month wait, or vmp with no more then a weeks wait. i got mine from vmp and love it

http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...parent=66&pg=1

 

I guess if one only wants custom tunes, canned are kinda useless. I am wondering, could ya 86 the canned tunes and get 6 custom?

 

not sure, but honestly i only have one custom tune....never used the others

 

Ok thanks i goin to do some thinkin now...
Thanks

 

The question's been answered over and over again. Look through this forum and form your own answer. It's all opinion. No one has any real objective facts to give you. The current favorites though are the Gryphon from PHP, and the XCal from VMP or TP.

- Jack