Is the hypertech 3 any good what so ever I know its not up to an edge ,but does it have any kind of performance gain and if so what kind of rev limits and shift changes would you do and also is there any hp gain thanks

 

i didn't get an answer from the hypertech rep a few weeks ago on this but hypertech usually only tunes under wot -useless for an everyday driver unless you are racing your truck-invest in an edge evo or custom tune xcal3 sct tuner from mike troyer-hope this helps-phil

 

Phil,

The X-Cal 3 comes from SCT, not Superchips. Two different companies. Just want to make sure people are getting accurate info.

Take care.

Bill

 

superchips custom tuning? sometimes i join the two-phil

 

I have been running the 93 tune from Hypertech for a year now. Here are my likes and dislikes:

Pros:
Much better than the stock tune, especially in the mid rang and passing.
Both 87 and 93 are a noticeable difference over stock especially in regards to throttle response.

Cons:
WOT programming sucks horrifically. The truck accelerates much faster and shifts much better at 3/4 throttle. Wide open throttle induces noticeable lag at the end of the RPM range.
I get lean codes when running the K&N filter in the stock intake. OEM filter will not throw a code. WTF go figure

What you can tweak:
Octane 87 or 93
Rear End Ratio
Tire Size
Automatic or Manual Tranny with or with out aftermarket shift kit installed
Icreased shift firmness
Icrease shift points 100-400 rpm 1-2/2-3/3-4
Increase speed limiter for speed rated tires
Raise rev limiter

That's it! I will get troyer custom tunes and sell my hypertech after christmas.
I need to get the damn rear end swapped out first and coild packs replaced if I could stay in town long enough.

 

"Noob"

 

ME: 8===> o: YOU

Suck it

 

What's that mean?

 

kinda looks like a wiener and a mouth I think he is the ya know and you are the mouth. That is some kinda $#it 5th graders do, kinda like spelling 80085 on the calculator. Burn....

 

And you would be correct sir.
For those who reply with intelligence I choose discourse. For those who reply with ignorance I reply likewise.

Here is a riddle for you:
What is your most valuable possession. I know it, but do you?

 

From mLasalle150 a senior member on the site:
i too have a 2004 5.4L, and also the K&N FIPK.

I ran it on the stock tune for a while but was concerned about running lean. Troyer said the FIPK runs lean in the higher RPMs but stays safe in the lower RPMs.

I did the custom tuning, and it is well worth it. The intake performs great now, no drone and lots of power!

K&N have been around forever and make a great product backed by a lifetime warranty. Plus its 50 state smog legal, unlike many other intakes including the AF1.

I can drive a 1000 miles on the K&N with or with out the tune, but as soon as I get over 4100rpm the lean codes (0171 and 0174) will kick on and stay on.

 

150_Eagle48,

Is this for the truck you have listed in your sig? I'll get you a dyno graph and a list of the available tuning features for your application. Also I would suggest you check out the Hypertech Max Energy which is the Power Programmer III's replacement.

The tuning will be the same in either programmer, but the Max Energy is internet updateable and in the case that you get a cal not found after a dealer flashes your truck it is a pretty quick and easy process of getting an updated calibration.

The Max Energy is also a much smaller unit and could be easily kept in your glove box. And just to be clear Hypertech’s tunes throughout the entire power band.

 

Malexander52,

I would assume that lean condition with K&N is caused the way the air is traveling across the MAF. If you look at your stock filter you can kind of see how it would do a really good job of straightening the air that flows through it. Now with the K&N more free flowing design the air isn't coming is as straight and as uniform as it does with the stock filter. Like most things air takes the path of least resistance, so were as with the stock filter the air traveled across the MAF one way, but with the K&N it is going across it in a completely different way. What this boils down to is the MAF isn’t getting an accurate reading of how much air is entering the engine. Now we ran into this on the 05 Mustang and developed tunes for the most popular air intakes and it is our plan to do that for the 04+ F150s at the first of the year.

 

Good to hear from a hypertech rep! I think your postulation regarding the filters may be correct. I changed to the OEM filter this morning but did not reset the code. I will see if it turns itself off in the next 50 miles. I must say that for those who can't afford the Troyer tunes but want something better than stock, get the hypertech and save $200 for you air intake or new gears.
As I said in a previous post, and in my sig, my truck has a 3.08 right now. The tuner really made a difference!
The Hypertech III I bought last year only allows me to tune 87 or 93 octanes.
Is there an update I can get to tune 89 or 91? Is there any reason for me to sell my unit and get the Max Energy unit?
Are there any hypertech recommendations for tuning each specific vehicle? By that I mean does hypertech have a page of recommended settings for the shift points, rev limiters, etc for various vehicle applications?
I look forward to your response.

 

Malexander52,

You don't need an update to run 91 oct, since all of Hypertech's products have C.A.R.B. EO numbers the tunes have been tested on 91 octane since that is all you can get in Californa. On the new programmers it doesn't ask if you're going to run 87 or 93, it ask if you will be running regular or preimum instead. So to awnser your question there really isn't a reason for you to upgrade to a Max Energy as the tuning will be the same.

As for your second question, no Hypertech doesn't have any recomended settings on our website. I will take this in to consideration because maybe this is something we should have on our site.